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| Thread ID: 141748 | 2016-02-15 05:33:00 | Club Email mail outs : opinions please | 1101 (13337) | PC World Chat |
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| 1416086 | 2016-02-15 05:33:00 | Hi Guys, Just after some opinions Club email mailouts. A club I'm in occasionally sends its members emails of notices , upcoming club events etc. No issues But, is is acceptable for a club mass email mailout, to be just of a bunch of stuff someone is trying to sell ? Even if those products are related to the clubs activities ? Thats getting pretty close to the definition of spam I thought, and an abuse of email lists . Sure, I didnt get upset by it , & I just deleted it. But it seemed really shonky to me. I did email them back, stating that mass email mailouts are now covered by NZ law & they should consider there mass email policies, but suggestion that fell on deaf ears . Some still think they can do whatever they want with email lists . Any opinons |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1416087 | 2016-02-15 06:52:00 | I wouldn't be happy if it was only for sale stuff and not actual club information. I would ask to be removed if it was like that. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1416088 | 2016-02-15 08:09:00 | I send out mass emails to the group I am in (SeniorNet) but only to tell them what's going on, and when and where lessons are going to be. But I have some members that are not interested to get the emails , so they just tell me to take them off the list, they think it's spam? Why join if you don't want to participate? Can't seem to please everyone... LL |
lakewoodlady (103) | ||
| 1416089 | 2016-02-15 18:17:00 | I send out mass emails to the group I am in (SeniorNet) but only to tell them what's going on, and when and where lessons are going to be. Why join if you don't want to participate? LL That's what the website is for. Not emails. And some people join for the odd bit of help. I'd agree it's spam, and the email 1101 says about selling stuff. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1416090 | 2016-02-15 20:35:00 | We used to use the website I made for our previous Taupo SeniorNet, but that group folded in 2015. Committee resigned due to burnout, deaths, etc. The new group is just in the restarting up stage, currently have no secretary, treasurer, and only 3 members. I said I'd help them get going for the moment, but I don't think it's gonna fly. I don't wanna end up doing nearly everything like before! The people we help often don't know how to get onto a website anyway, let alone find their way around one. They only want to know how to email and maybe Skype, lol. So, email is the best way to contact them. LL |
lakewoodlady (103) | ||
| 1416091 | 2016-02-15 21:07:00 | Perhaps not direct sells within the email newsletter. But maybe an opt-in link to a sell page, e.g. a Trademe Sellers page, or a blog, Facebook sell page, etc. The trademe mod motors newsletter, have quite engaging content, but I think a link(s) to view (meaning hopefully to bid/buy as a marketing tool) for classic cars. Important to give subscribers a choice to select if they want to buy, rather than direct viewing/buying. Recent years from experienced content marketers has been to gently "pull" rather than push "buy now" products, premium content, research reports, exclusive offers, etc. This might mean another sign up to another newsletter but with different goals, e.g. for selling. Marketers call this process lead magnets. (www.digitalmarketer.com) This is to create leads in a non intrusive subtle approach. but to do that, need offer useful, meaningful engaging content to build up authority and trust- over a long time...So that subscribers can go a step further- buy opting in (clicking the offer link) to convert what ever you are trying to achieve, which includes selling relevant products (or displaying relevant affiliate ads/pay per click, etc). I follow a automotive blog, who has great content, and he has offers to buy test products. I trust him,and buy, but took several months before I did. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1416092 | 2016-02-15 21:24:00 | But maybe an opt-in link to a sell page.... These guys cant even get the concept of an opt-out in the email mailouts :) Pretty sure thats required by law , (or strongly suggested) |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1416093 | 2016-02-15 22:28:00 | These guys cant even get the concept of an opt-out in the email mailouts :) Pretty sure thats required by law , (or strongly suggested) They had better learn then or it may cost them big time. May pay to send a link to the actual laws regarding spam emails. If they are sending out a email to club members with general information, whats on etc then that's not a problem. But sending out all advertising could easily be considered spam. Especially if a person has not given their consent to be sent it. What they need to do is have an opt-in for advertising, then two separate emails could be sent out, 1 for general club activity's etc, and a 2nd solely advertising for people who want it. Examples of getting consent (www.dia.govt.nz) While that's relating to a business, it could apply. Point them to www.dia.govt.nz Tell them to look at the Heading "High Court judgement" -- While this is of course would be a bit over the top for a club, that place got stung a HUGE amount. Then scroll down to "About Spam" it describes it nicely. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1416094 | 2016-02-16 18:42:00 | The people we help often don't know how to get onto a website anyway, let alone find their way around one. They only want to know how to email and maybe Skype, lol. So, email is the best way to contact them. LL Yeah the thing I found with Senior net is just that, they have set training. Office, email etc. They don't teach them how to look after the PC, or anything beyond using a package. Taught a few older people. There was one down South, she got her first ever PC just before I left. Had to start with mouse buttons, icons etc. It's been upgraded since, now on Win 7, and she'd ring me whenever she had a problem. Rang me the one day as she got a debit card and decided to buy ink online. She wanted me to step her through it. How it went was: Me: Here's your link to website Her: what do I do Me: Select the printer model you have, then choose the ink from the list it shows Her: oh, click that, select that, add to cart, oh,new customer, details, name, address etc.... It says enter password, do I need a password Me: yes, then you just login next time you order Her: (Telling me the password), it says order confirmed, now what? Me: You're done, see, you don't need me anymore helping She has learnt heaps in 6 years, just mainly with me sitting on the phone and waiting for her to do stuff, and helping her navigate round the PC if she gets stuck. She's learnt to install stuff herself, run Syncback for her portable HDD backups, order online, find things via google, do a few malware checks (other than running her usual antimalwares), rearrange her desktop, change settings and things on the PC, do the basics if internet connection drops out or goes slow. She hardly ever uses Office. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1416095 | 2016-02-16 22:00:00 | They had better learn then or it may cost them big time. May pay to send a link to the actual laws regarding spam emails. . Yeah, I did all that. I pointed out they had obligations under NZ law, pointing them to the govt website that explained it all in plain english. The 2nd email I sent them , just trying again to explain this to them (not harass them) , wasnt even replied to, so just ignored I guess. Some people just dont want to know & cant be helped . A poor, unprofessional attitude from club officials . Stuck in the past I guess . :annoyed: |
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