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1420234 2016-05-08 09:04:00 Saw never10 on majorgeeks this morning

Another option among many from Steve Gibson

www.majorgeeks.com e_windows_10_upgrade.html
Lawrence (2987)
1420235 2016-05-08 10:55:00 Saw never10 on majorgeeks this morning

Another option among many from Steve Gibson

www.majorgeeks.com e_windows_10_upgrade.html

Just had a look on Never 10's site, it does the exact same thing as the reg editing file posted previously. All it does is change the reg, and has the option to put it back again.


Never10 manipulates the values and security permission settings of the following two registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\Gwx
Under this key, the 32-bit DWORD value “DisableGwx” is set to 1 or completely deleted.
These will be referred to as the “Gwx” key and the “DisableGwx” value. This key and value control the display of the “Get Windows 10” offer icon in the system tray. When DisableGwx is set to 1, the upgrade offer icon is suppressed.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\WindowsUpdate
Under this key, the 32-bit DWORD value “DisableOSUpgrade” is set to 1 or completely deleted.
These will be referred to as the “WindowsUpdate” key and the “DisableOSUpgrade” value. This key and value control the downloading and installation of any upgrades to Windows. When DisableOSUpgrade is set to 1, any previously downloaded Windows 10 files are deleted and Windows will never attempt to upgrade the current operating system.

When Never10 disables automatic OS upgrading, the following actions are taken:

Under the Gwx key, which will be created if it doesn't yet exist, the 32-bit DWORD value “DisableGwx” is created and set to 1.
Under the WindowsUpdate key, the 32-bit DWORD value “DisableOSUpgrade” is created and set to 1.


Also interesting is the section:


The GWX Control Panel (an early popular solution at 2.4 megabytes) was a useful first step. But it was wrong in too many ways. Its design and operation seemed ill suited to the simple task of preventing upgrades to Windows 10. It was confusing and offered an array of actions, options and status reports, when all anyone really wanted was simply for Windows to not upgrade itself and to leave us alone. Instead, the GWX Control Panel makes itself the center of attention. It needs to be “installed”, is resident and persistent afterward, and it pops up all the time to tell us what a great job it's doing... which is exactly the kind of nonsense most people are fed up with in this era where “your attention” is what commercial interests all want to obtain more of. But more than anything, none of that was necessary . . .

Source (www.grc.com)
wainuitech (129)
1420236 2016-05-08 11:33:00 ^ Stevie must've missed the standalone version of GWX Control Panel (which doesn't nag at all) :D Renegade (16270)
1420237 2016-05-08 22:47:00 Never10 : Ive used it on a few PC's.
But there are some reports of never10 not being a permanent fix : ie the 10 ug prompt coming back

The reg fix : originally was 1, then 2, then 3 entries. No wonder it didnt work when I first tried it (single reg entry) :)
there is yet another reg entry, a 64bit reg entry :badpc:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Policies\M icrosoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:00000001

Just so many variables: new PC, pc with 10 files downloaded, PC just with prompt that hasnt been accepted, PC on a domain but used as local used at home

I hate think about the mess that could(will) happen when the free offer expires in July(?) .
After July, users will accidentally click on the ug, get win10 only to find it cant be activated & their shiny new 10 wont be usuable for long .
1101 (13337)
1420238 2016-05-08 22:48:00 www.infoworld.com



"We found that, although the Registry entries succeed in keeping the most visible part of GWX from appearing -- the Get Windows 10 icon in the system tray -- they do absolutely nothing to keep GWX off of Windows 7 and 8.1 PCs. In fact, the phalanx of programs, settings, scheduled tasks, and automatic Registry-changers continue to work behind the scenes no matter how you jigger those settings"
1101 (13337)
1420239 2016-05-08 23:14:00 I hate think about the mess that could(will) happen when the free offer expires in July(?) .
After July, users will accidentally click on the ug, get win10 only to find it cant be activated & their shiny new 10 wont be usuable for long . I suspect there will be some sort of message AFTER its downloaded along the lines of, " Your trial will expire in 30 days" to keep using windows 10 after this time it will cost you $xxx to purchase a license.

The W7 I'm on now, its been blocked by the reg alterations, has been since the reserve a copy first came out, BUT It can be upgraded as W10 has already been on it from another HDD, so If I ever decide to put 10 on it its already registered. :)
wainuitech (129)
1420240 2016-05-09 02:09:00 @Lawrence
Thanks. Thats interesting and the Snappy Driver Installer. Will look into it more later today
kioti
kioti (17360)
1420241 2016-05-09 02:55:00 Saw never10 on majorgeeks this morning

Another option among many from Steve Gibson

www.majorgeeks.com e_windows_10_upgrade.html

:thanks Lawrence :thumbs:
B.M. (505)
1420242 2016-05-10 02:53:00 I have never had any nags about W10 update on any of my computers, but then I have Auto updates turned off & set to Manual. They are all now updated to W10 via DVD/ISO & all working well. I have just completed the last one. It had W7 on Ptn1 & W10 on Ptn2, dual booted so that I could continue using it for work. When I had got W10 into shape as I like it, and all software working, I deleted Windows 7, reduced Ptn1 to 500MB to retain the MBR, Loader, then expanded Ptn2 to take up the blank space. Removed the drive letter from Ptn1 to hide it. Works well.

This machine is an old Dell Vostro 1015 which has no W10 support. I managed to use all my W7 drivers by installing them with Device manager direct to the driver folder. If I tried the driver setup it would be rejected. All work well. I first had this problem when W7 was new & I was using XP drivers.
mzee (3324)
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