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1420373 2016-05-12 01:03:00 heres why :annoyed:

baremetal.com
"......It is not very effective at blocking spam, as the spammers are better at working with SPF than most ISPs seem to be. They often buy their own domains and setup legit SPF records. However, it is quite effective at stopping spammers from forging mail with addresses inside of your domain. This is known as a joe job"

Perhaps in your case, spf simply isnt being enforced , or not enforced correctly .
How often do you hear of email being rejected due to no(or bad) spf record , it really doesnt seem to be enforced (in general) .

See if your spamfilter has a greylisting option .

I would have to look into the controls, I don't really handle this sort of thing myself
Just contact support at the service.
I mean the SPF record they put in place LOOKS ok.
DeSade (984)
1420374 2016-05-12 01:45:00 I use spf for our email domains and yes, a lot of places don't block even if your spf record says to.
I've got a few users currently getting joe jobbed even though we have an SPF hard fail rule if it ain't from our servers.
It does, however, drastically reduce incoming spam volumes for very little overhead.
fred_fish (15241)
1420375 2016-05-12 09:09:00 I screen every incoming email on Mailwasher, and those for which I am uncertain or that I don't like the look of, I check in 'Email/preview message' or 'View complete header'' which usually gives the geographic location as well, so you can see their premises via google maps.

No email enters my computer system until it has passed MailWashers' scrutiny, and on a typical day I can check 20 or 30 spam & nuisance emails, delete them, then download the legit emails from my ISP, which is about five a day!

I don't know how anybody can survive on the web without it!

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
1420376 2016-05-12 12:52:00 I screen every incoming email on Mailwasher...
I don't know how anybody can survive on the web without it!

I don't know how you end up with 20 spam messages in a day. I couldn't remember the last time I saw one so I went and had a look at my main Gmail via webmail like I always do.
0 Spam mails received today
5 messages hiding in the Junk folder since april - I never look in there
19 messages in the spam folder since april - never look there either
nothing older, I think they auto delete from those folders

And bear in mind I have 2 older xtra E-mail addresses forwarding to my Gmail as well so that's from 3 accounts. What are you doing that attracts that much spam? posting your E-mail on public forums? I just can't imagine how it gets that bad. Or maybe it's Just that Yahoo and Gmails spam filters stop most of it without me ever seeing it, I have noticed using webmail you don't get as much of it as with a local client E-mail program - no idea why that is. Actually on a whim I went and logged into yahoo mail - never do that either - the spam folder has 671 messages in it. So there you go, I survive by my E-mail provider filtering it all out for me.

I have used mailwasher in the past, but I just didn't like adding the extra step to reading my E-mail and as you can see I don't get much spam. I suspect when you use the webmail clients the spam filtering is more aggressive because it's all still there in the folder where you can check it if you want to to see if anything is being labelled spam in error but that's just a guess.
dugimodo (138)
1420377 2016-05-12 22:41:00 I don't know why anyone uses mailwasher!

Gmail does all the work for me. My email addr is 'out there' but I only get about 6 in the spam folder per week. Very rare to get a false positive and just as rare to get spam through to my Inbox.
linw (53)
1420378 2016-05-12 23:33:00 I don't know why anyone uses mailwasher!

Gmail does all the work for me.

because many dont use gmail.
If its a business related email, many want to have complete control over what the spam filter does . Image loosing a potential important
client after some spam filter just removed/blocked/hid it.

The spam filter requirements for someones business email a/c are different from a personal gmail a/c
1101 (13337)
1420379 2016-05-13 01:16:00 The advantage of mailwasher is you can see all the mail and decide if its legit or spam, or simply "just not right" and only allow through what you want. Wouldn't trust any thing like gmail.

Most businesses who have their own domain names usually don't use gmail.
wainuitech (129)
1420380 2016-05-13 01:28:00 I have had no issues with my provider for years now and very little spam
Not sure what has changed recently but I am getting 20-30 emails a day filled mostly with failed deliveries from email addresses I have never used (but from my domain) and most of them trigger my AV.
DeSade (984)
1420381 2016-05-13 01:44:00 Not sure what has changed recently but I am getting 20-30 emails a day filled mostly with failed deliveries from email addresses I have never used (but from my domain) and most of them trigger my AV.

Your domain name (email) is now on spammers/hackers email list . From here on it just gets worse :annoyed:
They probably try several guessed email adresses for your domain email , hoping to get some that are valid email addresses

You may also be getting bouncebacks if they are also spoofing your domain email addresses when sending spam out to others
It could also be a local (yours or mail hosts) compromised PC/server causing this (less likely)
1101 (13337)
1420382 2016-05-13 02:15:00 Your domain name (email) is now on spammers/hackers email list . From here on it just gets worse :annoyed:
They probably try several guessed email adresses for your domain email , hoping to get some that are valid email addresses

You may also be getting bouncebacks if they are also spoofing your domain email addresses when sending spam out to others
It could also be a local (yours or mail hosts) compromised PC/server causing this (less likely)

Yes it is the bouncebacks I am seeing
I thought the SPF was going to stop that.

Oh and ALL emails on my domain are valid.
DeSade (984)
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