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Thread ID: 84236 2007-10-29 08:52:00 Scanning Negatives etc:. sarum (6222) Press F1
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606381 2007-12-03 07:13:00 Why do you want to scan negatives. As far as I know to turn negatives into photos is a chemical process.
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By scanning negatives you can turn them into positives in your computer and enhance, crop,save,print and all the other computer things without messing about with chemicals and having to have an enlarger and darkroom.

I have a Fuji S7000 digital camera that has a micro macro setting which will focus right down so that I can fill the viewfinder with a 35mm negative. So I made a gadget out of an old film copier which screws on the end of my fuji's lens and I can photograph the negative or slide very much faster than using a scanner. I have done hundreds of negatives and slides of my children when young and other family photos and put them onto DVD's for my family.
heaton (3697)
606382 2007-12-04 00:05:00 To scan own film on the flatbed scanner on the lid on top there has to be a light source as well.

To scan film, Epsons are pretty good, if you have 110 size film - larger than 35mm go for a mid level model. For 35mm go for a low model, for sheet film like 4x5 go for mid if you can and for 8x10 inch go for the high model like the current V700.

I have found that the Epsons software pretty good neutral but needs a 3rd party software like Vuescan (online cheap) or Silverfast (sometimes included or a few $100s). The 3rd party software provides more characterisitc for the type of film you are using since you can select the brand/model film.

You can also get some of the older Epsons like a 4990 is the older V700.

These will be able to obtain excellent slide shows emails, small prints, or A4 size prints (good IMO) from my own 35mmn film scans printed on a Epson inkjet with photo paper.

If you want better quality - look at Minolta discontinued but good or Nikon good and current but unfortunately not provided Vista drivers yet but I think Vuescan and Silverfast utilities can provide utilities that make it work. On trademe one for 35mm film can be BUY NOW for like $300-400. For 110 size you would need a 8000 or 9000 model which cost more.

For slide film its easier - Epson software is pretty good, IMO negative film would benefit from a better software since they are brown and the colors are not straight out of the box - so film "color profiles" would help from those utilities.
Nomad (952)
606383 2007-12-04 00:08:00 If one was to scan a printout at 300dpi that is fine . So a 6x4 will be 6x4 at the 300dpi printed resolution .

If you scan film at 300dpi - that means 24mmx36mm film will be printed at 300dpi of the size of 24x36mm (on paper) provided no upsizing is done on the imaging software .

I found that I needed to scan at 800 or 1000 dpi for wallpaper size for the computer .
Nomad (952)
606384 2007-12-04 20:51:00 Why do you want to scan negatives. As far as I know to turn negatives into photos is a chemical process.
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These days, if you go to real pro labs and pay $35 for a roll of film developed and printed its via digital process - digital minilabs - like a Fuji Frontier, Kodak Noritsu, Agfa D machine. The pro labs has better skills to deal with colors and sharpness but they are using the same equipment as the guys at 1hr lab, Kmart, diaries, bookshops, chemists ...

The film is chemically developed but its digitally printed.
Hence the reason that with mini labs machines they are equipped, if you have a floppy disk, CD or DVD, or Zip disk or memory card they use the same machine to print your digital photographs. Your digital photographs are essentially printed out on Fuji Archive Crystal (glossy) paper just like with a film camera. There is however shops popping up now with Epson printers like Harvey Norman etc., or even the large format models producing up to 44 inch wide sizes.

Given how the world is turned into digital - its v hard even in the USA to find chemically printed photographs - maybe for b/w and if you really hunt them down and maybe ask in a photography forum and they will charge you an arm and a leg. For color, never heard of it ... C41 is mostly color brown film or a few b/w film and E6 is slide film color or the Agfa had a b/w slide but that is a bit diff which labs are closing down now, I think that film has been discontinued as well, yeah its Agfa Scala. All of those are printed electronic. You can get traditional b/w film which can be easily darkroom developed at home - in a darkroom in a closet put in this lightproof container and then in the kitchen liquids can be poured in/out (in open lights) - which is pretty good for a grainy unique look - those film can be printed darkroom as well - at home - and probably at lab in NZ (even) if you really look. One can get a dip dunk machine to do film and prints like a Jobo machine. I thought of that but given that color chemicals are not available anymore for the hobbyist I given up, so now I just develop b/w film at home and scan and print via digital on my computer.

But in NZ, I use some of the pro labs but these days I just scan and print myself. The pro lab will develop my film (chemically in their minilab machine or dip dunk machine for slide film). The quality can be seen better than analogue days however b/w film still has a particular thing with the analogue darkroom. In those $$ labs in NZ, yes they process b/w film electronically in a diff machine using the traditional darkroom approach - dip dunking - with a disclosed film developer - but I am not sure if they have the facilities to actually print b/w via darkroom with an enlarger etc.

I've seen labs in the USA who does international orders - so essentially you could send film there and they send them back to you after.

Digital makes things cheap which is great, older digi models or film cams - even medium and large format cams where we couldn't even dream of before - that is 110 size film 6x45cm, 6x6, 6x7 or 4x5 inch or 8x10 inch. I may even get myself a rig of each - maybe 6x7 and 4x5 in due time :p
Nomad (952)
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