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607075 2007-10-31 18:36:00 Hi guys,

Well im building 2 more PC's for workmates of mine, and all of a sudden I hit a brick wall..!!

Iv ordered 1x 250GB IDE HDD, and 1x DVD-RW IDE drive, thats fine, but heres the problem. The motherboard only has 1 IDE plug..! Now this is only my 2nd build, and IDE is all new to me seeing as my pc was all sata..

How do the ribbons work, can I hook both drives up on one ribbon?

Heres the motherboard in question, ASUS M2N-MX SE (reviews.cnet.com)

Actually while iv got your attention, could you please tell me, since this mobo has onboard graphics, is there any point using a graphics card? This is the one I have bought for them, ASUS EN8400GS (www.xspo.co.uk)

Thanks alot!! :thumbs:
Damz (10942)
607076 2007-10-31 18:46:00 You can put both hdds on 1 cable. BUT not the burner.

I would take them back and get SATA hdd's.

Or buy a SATA burner.

Depends if you want to play games. Most mobos with onboard video are crap.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
607077 2007-10-31 19:11:00 How do the ribbons work, can I hook both drives up on one ribbon?

Yes you can have the HDD & DVD drive on the same ribbon, although burning DVDs may be affected at high speeds. Just set the HDD to master & DVD to slave.

You'd be better off getting all SATA drives as they're easier to set up and use smaller cables for better airflow in the case.
autechre (266)
607078 2007-10-31 19:19:00 As autechre said, you can hook both up onto one IDE cable, with the hard drive set to "Master" and the burner set to "Slave. It will work, however you may find some performance issues as a result of both sharing that same channel. somebody (208)
607079 2007-10-31 19:22:00 The other problem having the two drives, HD and optical on the one IDE is sometimes the IDE cable is not long enough to reach the Optical drive/HD/Motherboard, this happens if you have a full tower case sometimes, so you may have to purchase a longer IDE cable.

Speedys suggestion about changing the Drives to SATA is the better choice, that way you shouldn't have to many troubles in the future.
wainuitech (129)
607080 2007-10-31 20:16:00 Well im building 2 more PC's for workmates of mine,

Iv ordered 1 IDE HDD,The motherboard only has 1 IDE plug . . ! IDE is all new to me seeing as my pc was all sata . .

Actually while iv got your attention, could you please tell me, since this mobo has onboard graphics, is there any point using a graphics card?

If you didn't check this out before ordering the parts what the hell makes you think you should be building PCs?
Its basic stuff .

And if you have no idea whether or not onboard versus separate graphics matters then even worse .

It all depends on what these poor suckers that hired you want to do with the PC .
pctek (84)
607081 2007-10-31 23:24:00 If your not wanting to spend much maybe get a PCI controller card with a couple more IDE slots. Likes of Promise make them, you might pick an old one up off trademe.

A Promise ATA133 controller card would allow for 4 more IDE devices.

As far as the burner on the same cable as a HDD I have never had any problems with burning. I have a mix of IDE and Sata drives on this and I have both a cd-rom and a dvd burner both slaving to two ide hdd's they work fine.

I have both a Promise ATA133 card (4 IDE Devices) and a Promise SATA card (4 Sata HDD's) on this PC.
Bantu (52)
607082 2007-11-01 02:58:00 Wow . Thanks to everybody for all your replies .

I think I might swap the dvd drive for a sata then, last thing I want to do is compromise the performance of the machine .

And pctek, bloody hell? No I didnt check it out before I ordered, I overlooked it . Like I said in the first half of my first post, this is only my second build . And I made a mistake, which I will definately learn from . Sure, it might be "basic" to someone like yourself with plenty of knowledge and experience, but I'm learning . And I do believe the subtitle of this forum was "Ask for help with your PC problems and discuss technical issues", which is what I did?

And the graphics card thing, I asked that because the graphics card isnt exactly an 8800gtx, so wondered if it was still worth using it . However Speedy effortlessly gave me that answer . Much appreciated!

Didnt think I'd need my flame suit for this one . . We all have to start somewhere!!!!!
Damz (10942)
607083 2007-11-01 03:01:00 Yes you can have the HDD & DVD drive on the same ribbon, although burning DVDs may be affected at high speeds. Just set the HDD to master & DVD to slave.

You'd be better off getting all SATA drives as they're easier to set up and use smaller cables for better airflow in the case.

Other way around, the cutter to master!
SolMiester (139)
607084 2007-11-01 07:14:00 It all depends on what these poor suckers that hired you want to do with the PC.

People have to start somewhere - you are being a bit obnoxious - sounds like you want the business and you are the only one capable of doing it!
johnd (85)
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