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| Thread ID: 84465 | 2007-11-06 20:57:00 | Nvidia vga bios engineering release | ruatuki (12890) | Press F1 |
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| 608954 | 2007-11-07 05:20:00 | Ah no, but the diff is, a computer will still work even if the BIOS is old. Altho, that may depend on the CPU you put on the mobo. A car on the other hand, wont go far with flat tyres. I dont think I've seen any mobo with the latest BIOS update on it. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 608955 | 2007-11-07 05:24:00 | So it's ok for a car dealership to sell you a car with the tires deflated, because they can pump them up by themselves? That's completely different, be default that would render the car undriveable. However the message "engineering release" at POST does not affect the actual usage of a PC. Whether or not the BIOS which displays that message is stable, is another matter. personally I found it perfectly stable while booting and updating to the latest version, in fact it would probably be stable even if I hadn't updated, but in the case of the M2N-MX SE, I wanted to update to get rid of any possible problems that the BIOS versions later than 0201 fixed. But not having the latest BIOS is in my opinion not a good reason to return a motherboard |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 608956 | 2007-11-07 05:51:00 | That's completely different, be default that would render the car undriveable. However the message "engineering release" at POST does not affect the actual usage of a PC. Whether or not the BIOS which displays that message is stable, is another matter. personally I found it perfectly stable while booting and updating to the latest version, in fact it would probably be stable even if I hadn't updated, but in the case of the M2N-MX SE, I wanted to update to get rid of any possible problems that the BIOS versions later than 0201 fixed. But not having the latest BIOS is in my opinion not a good reason to return a motherboard Looks like you had some good luck. My friend's PC would continually crash at random times within a few hours of installing Windows, and in the process would damage the MBR of the hard drive so that it needed a complete reformat and reinstall. A new (Gigabyte) motherboard fixed the problem. My analogy works on this basis - a car with deflated tyres will go... for a little bit, before causing damage, and needing new tires/rims. Same deal here. In any case, it's the principle of the thing - why would any reputable motherboard manufacturer ship pre-release firmware, which will only damage its reputation? |
somebody (208) | ||
| 608957 | 2007-11-07 06:49:00 | I've been using a ASUS M2N-MX SE for a little while now and its run perfectly stable with XP Pro. Yeah I thought about updating to the current BIOS but keep putting it off as got other things to do and its not causing me problems in any state or form. Somebody maybe it was just a bad board your mate had or maybe the RAM wasn't fully compatible who knows, but the BIOS in general still works for most people. If it didn't ASUS wouldn't ship the MB with it. |
stormdragon (6013) | ||
| 608958 | 2007-11-07 08:24:00 | Looks like you had some good luck. My friend's PC would continually crash at random times within a few hours of installing Windows, and in the process would damage the MBR of the hard drive so that it needed a complete reformat and reinstall. A new (Gigabyte) motherboard fixed the problem. My analogy works on this basis - a car with deflated tyres will go... for a little bit, before causing damage, and needing new tires/rims. Same deal here. In any case, it's the principle of the thing - why would any reputable motherboard manufacturer ship pre-release firmware, which will only damage its reputation? Did your friend also have the M2N-MX SE? Apparently there were some RAM issues that were fixed in the latest BIOS. Did your friend try updating to the latest BIOS? Was the RAM tested? I don't believe that BIOS version 0201 is pre-release, perhaps the video BIOS part was, as that's where the engineering release message was displayed on mine, but I don't think that BIOS 0201 was the first either |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 608959 | 2007-11-07 09:38:00 | I have had a few Shuttle XPC boxes that had the Engineering Release message as well so not only Asus that are doing it. A BIOS update fixes the problem (Not that it was really a problem as machines ran fine anyway) |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 608960 | 2007-11-07 19:08:00 | Thanks for the input. The situation is.... 24 machines (all same specs, ASUS m2n-mx se based) were purchased for a school with XP Pro installed. Over the following month 6 to 10 of the machines have had a variety of issues mostly to do with Windoze system files and dlls. Each issue may occur on one or two machines with other problems occurring on others. There is no real pattern to the problems. The VGA Bios reporting an Engineering release was one hint to a possible cause but the truth is it could be one of many things (or a variety of causes). Unfortunately my magic wand is at the cleaners at the moment. Needless to say, the owner wants an instant fix. I am not the supplier of the hardware. |
ruatuki (12890) | ||
| 608961 | 2007-11-07 19:22:00 | If it is like you say, they have the engineering release message, then the BIOS is likely rather old (v0201 or earlier) in which case there are known memory issues only solved in the latest 0406 BIOS revision This *may* be your problem, I find it hard to believe that such a high amount of the boards would be faulty, I think it would be much more likely an incompatibility issue. Have you tried memtest on the machines with issues? if you just want to hope for a quick fix, try updating the lot to v0406 and hope it solves the problem :D |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 608962 | 2007-11-07 19:42:00 | Did your friend also have the M2N-MX SE? Apparently there were some RAM issues that were fixed in the latest BIOS. Did your friend try updating to the latest BIOS? Was the RAM tested? I don't believe that BIOS version 0201 is pre-release, perhaps the video BIOS part was, as that's where the engineering release message was displayed on mine, but I don't think that BIOS 0201 was the first either I don't actually know what he did, apart from the fact that he tried different RAM and a different hard drive, and it didn't make a difference. He just sent it back under warranty and the supplier tested it saying it was "fine". |
somebody (208) | ||
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