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Thread ID: 84741 2007-11-16 18:52:00 Motherboard or CPU Fault? pctek (84) Press F1
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612069 2007-11-16 18:52:00 New build.
ASUS M2n-MX SE
AMD x2 5600
Twin DDr2-667 Corsair Value

Symptoms:

His WOW will not install. Aborts with Error 38.

Put some Kingston RAM in it - same thing.,
Swapped DVDRW - same thing.
Copied CDs to HDD> This time I got CRC error trying to copy the file off CD1.

It uses MSI Installer to extract the game BTW - in case thats relevant.

Tried the same process on my own PC - same thing.

OK, so WOW may be knackered.

COpied over some demos to this PC - Crysis, Bioshock etc.

On extracting them, they all failed with CRC errors.

Got a rather large rar file I have had for some time. This failed on several parts saying corrupt bits too.

They do not do this on my own PC.

I reinstalled Windows (theres an image stored) - his DVD drive gave can't read file errors. Used another DVD drive - no problem.

One thing I did notice - when this PC - which he has had for a week or so now - came back, the 4 pin connector was loose. As in not pushed in properly. Not the CPU one - this PSU has dividable 20pin + 4pin - that one.

Don't know if thats relevant either.

But I'm beginning to suspect either MB or CPU may have a problem.
pctek (84)
612070 2007-11-16 19:44:00 low voltage on psu maybe ? that would tend to affect many components drcspy (146)
612071 2007-11-17 02:34:00 Bad HDD? beeswax34 (63)
612072 2007-11-17 02:39:00 99.9 percent of the time its the Mobo, In my experience CPU's die rather then "going bad", where as a munted Mobo may struggle along for months if not years before finally giving up (though mobo'scan failcompletely and quickly.) Metla (12)
612073 2007-11-17 20:42:00 Well. Its the Corsair RAM.

I had thought not as I had put the Kingston in. But its really 2 things. Or maybe 3.
His WOW CDs have a problem - I'd tried the install, and a file copy to the HDD with his CDs using the Kingston stuff, and it failed so I thought not RAM.

Anyway eventually used MS RAM diagnostic and it failed straight away (so much faster than memtest).

So used the Kingston RAM and another persons WOW CDs and I was able to successfully install the damn game.

Then it lost mouse double click. Bizarre. Couldn't cure it. Did a Repair install, that cured it and stuffed something else. It hung every time in normal mode. Removed all the drivers, reinstalled them. Nope.
So retrieved the WOW install and wiped it and did a clean install. Finally.

Probably corrupted windows due to all the stuffing around.

Interestingly, I then put the faulty Corsair in my PC and attempted to run the RAM test - it woul;dn't even boot, just said Append buffers too large or some such. Ditto with the memtest boot disk.

Whatever, RMA the ram on Monday.
Probably should have run the memory testing earlier.
I didn't think CPU either as I've seen the weird stuff knackered CPUs do, but then all the hassles with extractions I tried - they are CPU intensive.

It didn't fit MB either really.

This PC - I originally replaced MB, CPU, RAM, PSU and case. Then found HDD had 3 damaged places and replaced that too.
I'd say his DVD is OK but just in case I replaced that too last night.

So the only original thing left is his graphics card.

Heres hoping he doesn't come back next week with that!!

The PC had had a little "accident".
pctek (84)
612074 2007-11-18 07:48:00 Geez, I hope this ones a love job, cos' the hourly rate is gunna be a killer! :eek: Ferg (2559)
612075 2007-11-18 19:23:00 Warranty job. pctek (84)
612076 2007-11-18 22:11:00 I have found that most weird problems like that are RAM, but I did have a celeron CPU that must have been faulty, but drove me nuts trying to work out if it was MB or RAM..

Never suspected CPU as when my duron got broken, it just didn't work at all. (and the error beeps spelled l2 cache fail) - But this thing would work perfect sometimes, other times nothing, sometimes RAM beeps

Also the fact that when it was working fine, it could run prime95 for hours and never crash was just so frustrating

I eventually discovered what I think was the problem: looked like a little piece of the die about the size of pinhead had chipped/scratched, either way replacing CPU fixed all the problems
Agent_24 (57)
612077 2007-11-19 01:03:00 I had a fried one once - it produced the most interesting screen um, text? I suppose you'd call it..... pctek (84)
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