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Thread ID: 84896	2007-11-22 06:32:00	Any wireless networking experts here?	Joe_Davies (7849)	Press F1

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614014	2007-12-26 21:34:00	Thanks Speedy, I do have a Wireless Access Point, it's plugged in to an ethernet router, which is plugged in to my desktop. My cable modem is also plugged in to the router, but nothing seems to work. Oh well. Thanks for all your help, I've really appreciated it. I'll let you know if I ever get it sorted. Joe Davies	Joe_Davies (7849)
614015	2007-12-27 10:20:00	Blimey, talk about going all around it! You have the physical connections correct. Your laptop talks to the AP via radio which in turn talks to the router via the cable, your desktop talks to the router via the ethernet cable and the router acts as the go-between. You have to get all the IP addresses in the same subnet for starters. Apart from the AP (192.168.1.100), I didn't see you stating what IP addresses are being used. On both the laptop and the desktop, get to the command prompt (All Programs/Accessories). In the black box type ipconfig /all and hit enter. What IP address and gateway address are displayed? Report back on this info. (Believe me, there are dozens of good sites explaining all this if you let google at it. Reading some of these will help you).	linw (53)
614016	2007-12-27 19:55:00	Actually they dont have to be on the same Subnet. My brother had a D-Link DSL-302g (*shudder*) and it was already up and running. He bought a Linksys WRT150n from DSE at the same time as he got his Laptop (DSE offered good finance options). The DSL-302g (10.1.1.1) is set as a DHCP server from 10.1.1.3 -> 10.1.1.10 Hook up the "ADSL" port in the WRT150n (192.168.1.1) to the back of the DSL-302g and tell it to obtain its WAN IP address via DHCP. No fuss there. Then, tell the WRT150n to ALSO server DHCP but between 192.168.1.10 & 192.168.1.20 Point is that the 192.168.1.X and 10.1.1.X are on different subnets and it works fine ;) I think Speedys advice of an "all-in-one" device is good advice. Qmb do cheap Dynalink ones that work well enough :) It'll save the hassle of becoming a TCP/IP Networking guru ;)	Chilling_Silence (9)
614017	2007-12-31 02:06:00	Blimey, talk about going all around it! You have the physical connections correct . Your laptop talks to the AP via radio which in turn talks to the router via the cable, your desktop talks to the router via the ethernet cable and the router acts as the go-between . You have to get all the IP addresses in the same subnet for starters . Apart from the AP (192 . 168 . 1 . 100), I didn't see you stating what IP addresses are being used . On both the laptop and the desktop, get to the command prompt (All Programs/Accessories) . In the black box type ipconfig /all and hit enter . What IP address and gateway address are displayed? Report back on this info . (Believe me, there are dozens of good sites explaining all this if you let google at it . Reading some of these will help you) . Hi, This is the information I get from the above instructions: Ethernet Adaptor Local Area Connection: IP address: 203 . 79 . 68 . 179 Default Gateway: 203 . 96 . 152 . 4 This is the connection to TelstraClear's cable internet service . The others are Tunnel adapter addresses . Is this any help? Joe Davies	Joe_Davies (7849)
614018	2007-12-31 02:39:00	A question. Do you know if your cable modem or your hub have NAT? (I doubt that the hub would) If not (and by the look of the IP address you're getting from the cable modem/hub that you don't, then you will either need to get a router (which will have NAT) or set up internet connection sharing on the desktop to be able to share your internet connection.	Sherman (9181)
614019	2007-12-31 02:40:00	Actually they dont have to be on the same Subnet . My brother had a D-Link DSL-302g (*shudder*) and it was already up and running . He bought a Linksys WRT150n from DSE at the same time as he got his Laptop (DSE offered good finance options) . The DSL-302g (10 . 1 . 1 . 1) is set as a DHCP server from 10 . 1 . 1 . 3 -> 10 . 1 . 1 . 10 Hook up the "ADSL" port in the WRT150n (192 . 168 . 1 . 1) to the back of the DSL-302g and tell it to obtain its WAN IP address via DHCP . No fuss there . Then, tell the WRT150n to ALSO server DHCP but between 192 . 168 . 1 . 10 & 192 . 168 . 1 . 20 Point is that the 192 . 168 . 1 . X and 10 . 1 . 1 . X are on different subnets and it works fine ;) I think Speedys advice of an "all-in-one" device is good advice . Qmb do cheap Dynalink ones that work well enough :) It'll save the hassle of becoming a TCP/IP Networking guru ;) I would think he would need all the IP addresses on the same LAN as he has an wireless access point and not a wireless router . Computer 1 should be 192 . 168 . 1 . 2 & subnet mask 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 and Default gateway 192 . 168 . 1 . 1 Computer 2 ethernet interface should be 192 . 168 . 1 . 3 & subnet mask 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 and Default gateway 192 . 168 . 1 . 1 and should be disabled when using wireless . and for Wireless Network interface should be 192 . 168 . 1 . 4 & subnet mask 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 and Default gateway 192 . 168 . 1 . 1 Internet Modem should be 192 . 168 . 1 . 1 & subnet mask 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 Wireless Access point should be 192 . 168 . 1 . 100 & subnet mask 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 (this is solely for administration) . Try that to start with . Note: all computers point to the Internet modem as default gateway . All computers are on the same LAN . Hope this is a help	porkster (6331)
614020	2007-12-31 04:17:00	The reason its not working is simply because you have Telstras Modem and trying to push the connection out through a Hub, You need a router, with a Wireless Access point built in, or you can plug in your Access point. The access point will work from a router fine if its plugged into one of the 4 ports. A hub simply wont work direct from the Modem or PC. It needs to go Internet>Modem>Router > connect to PC's The modem is only giving out 1 Address, the PC can act as a router but its a LOT of mucking about with additional network cards. I have the exact same setup with Telstra, off of the 4 port ROUTER is 3 x 5 port switches(hubs) all feeding multi PC's, My router has a wireless Access point built in, but there are other access points spread through out the house/workshop with wireless access points plugged into the switches - all Being fed by the ROUTER.In this drawing (www.imagef1.net.nz) is a rather crude layout of how it needs to be. The Modem gets your Address from telstra, the Router then has the Address entered eg: 203. ???.???.??? with the default gateways being 203.96.125.4 & 203.96.152.12, THEN the router changes them and give you your network addresses of 192.168.1.??. You set the PC through the LAN connections to obtain IP address automatically, (or you can set them to static) If the wireless access Point is a separate plugin you open your browser, type in its address, in this case http://192.168.1.100, and there you can set its SSID (identity), your laptop when scanning will pick up the Signal and you log in. THEN go back and set the Security on the access point, set up the connection with no security to make sure it works first.	wainuitech (129)
614021	2007-12-31 04:43:00	Sorry, you must think I'm really thick ... (you're prob'ly right!). So you're saying I need to buy a router? The hub won't do the job? There's no way I can do this without a router and I don't need to get a wireless adaptor card for the desktop? Just want to be clear. Thanks for all the input, you guys are really helpful! Joe Davies	Joe_Davies (7849)
614022	2007-12-31 05:18:00	to answer your first comment Sorry, you must think I'm really thick ... (you're prob'ly right!). FAR from it - you are asking a question because you are having problems - thats the way to learn. The rest - if you have Telstrsa Cable it supplies 1 IP address only from the modem, the simplest way to set it up is to attach a Router to the Modem, which has 4 ports. The router can have your already purchased Access point plugged into it as long as it has a RJ45 Plug, and not a USB. Leaving 3 ports to attach other pc's. The router takes the 1 Address issued from Telstra and splits it up to allow more than 1 PC to connect at a time, up to 254 different PC's - The Hub More or less ( for simple terms) doesn't really split the address. What you can do is attach a router to the Modem, your access point to the Router, then PC to the router, your hub to another port and then you will have additional ports spare if required. BE careful with what you buy, the product you want is a Broadband Router, NOT an ADSL router. You don't have to get the most expensive, I have tried many different brands and the one I have found to last the longest is This one here (www.anywarenz.co.nz ) for a low price of about $95.00. Lasted 2 years so far never a problem, and it has a wireless Access point built in. A broadband Router like the one above has a port for the Telstra modem cable, called a Ethernet Port, the ADSL has a plug for the telephone line - two completely different ports. Example ( technical stuff ) How does the it get 254 from 4 ports - easy out - of 1 port you connect a switch, these range usually from 5 - 32 port, so from 1 router port you can connect 32 connections, the Router detects these and issues addresses as needed - to expand this you have 3 more ports - you can do the same again, so if you had 4 32 port switches theres 128 connections, then add in more switches from each of the 32 till you get to 254.	wainuitech (129)
614023	2007-12-31 05:38:00	Sorry Missed 1 bit - you don't need to get a wireless adapter for the Desktop, you only need to purchase a wireless adapter for the Laptop IF it doesn't have wireless built in. Something LikeThis here (www.anywarenz.co.nz ) if required. If you have any question done hesitate to ask.	wainuitech (129)
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