Forum Home
Press F1
Thread ID: 85017	2007-11-26 18:31:00	Keyloggers	Stassie (13064)	Press F1

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
615474	2007-11-26 21:30:00	Installing a logger on your own computer is completely lawful. But if it's used on the Internet on someone else's ISP account then it's questionable. So yeah you have good reason to ask for advice. Just be careful which software product you choose - there's more than a hint of nefariousness to monitoring other people's computer use, and a lot of software sellers are themselves nefarious. Particularly in the area you're looking at. Having said that, I would question your motives for actually considering this, given that you're not exactly open yourself about why you want to monitor your "sister's" computer use. And the question could be asked why you would even bring up the point about installing a logger on someone else's computer if that's supposedly not your intention?	Greg (193)
615475	2007-11-26 21:57:00	Thank you for your comments . They are very much appreciated . You mentioned that I haven’t been exactly open about my reasons for wanting install this, which is a fair comment . Obviously, I’m not going to bare all over the internet, but I did feel a little further explanation might be helpful . Basically, my teenage sister has been through a bit of a tough patch, and has moved near us with the intention of leaving the past behind and getting her life back on track . While she doesn’t live at our place, she treats it as a second home, which I encourage . We did agree on some boundaries, though, before I gave her the key . The use of our computer was one of these . I have strong reasons to suspect that she’s not sticking to her side of the bargain . I’ve talked to her about this, and she is adamant that she is . Although she’s been deceptive in the past, I don’t want to risk the relationship we’re building back by signalling that I don’t trust her by not allowing her access to the computer, or changing the password . *Rock* Me *Hard Place* For now, I’m really just looking into options . Please rest assured that I have no nefarious intentions… unless you consider my current dilemma to fall under this category .	Stassie (13064)
615476	2007-11-26 22:50:00	Although she’s been deceptive in the past, I don’t want to risk the relationship we’re building back by signalling that I don’t trust her by not allowing her access to the computer, or changing the password. . Then going behind her back and installing a keylogger is crazy. Why don't you just look at the History in IE?	pctek (84)
615477	2007-11-26 23:16:00	Thank you for your comments . They are very much appreciated . You mentioned that I haven’t been exactly open about my reasons for wanting install this, which is a fair comment . Obviously, I’m not going to bare all over the internet, but I did feel a little further explanation might be helpful . Basically, my teenage sister has been through a bit of a tough patch, and has moved near us with the intention of leaving the past behind and getting her life back on track . While she doesn’t live at our place, she treats it as a second home, which I encourage . We did agree on some boundaries, though, before I gave her the key . The use of our computer was one of these . I have strong reasons to suspect that she’s not sticking to her side of the bargain . I’ve talked to her about this, and she is adamant that she is . Although she’s been deceptive in the past, I don’t want to risk the relationship we’re building back by signalling that I don’t trust her by not allowing her access to the computer, or changing the password . *Rock* Me *Hard Place* For now, I’m really just looking into options . Please rest assured that I have no nefarious intentions… unless you consider my current dilemma to fall under this category . Stassie - I can suggest a software tool for you . But I'd like to think about an option . . . tell your sister that you're monitoring your computer usage, and that anything that's done on the PC is visible to you . That way it clears up any undue blame on either part . If you want a link to a free and reliable piece of software to do the job, let me know via PM (private message) - I prefer not to give out the link in public .	Greg (193)
615478	2007-11-26 23:51:00	In my case, to have an accurate record of what your computer is being used for, and to take action to prevent it being used in an inappropriate way if necessary . What about some 'parental control' software like Net Nanny ( . netnanny . com/products/netnanny" target="_blank">www . netnanny . com), I believe they offer a 2 week free trial . I have never used Net Nanny myself but know people who do; it blocks websites and searches, report on sites visited, and monitor instant messaging . . .	bachelorno1 (6556)
615479	2007-11-27 03:16:00	Why don't you just look at the History in IE? You'd be suprised how much of the younger generation know more than the parents :xmouth: And yes, I have used a keylogger program . I used it to add blocklisted words for my router .	bob_doe_nz (92)
615480	2007-11-27 03:24:00	I think Avast Home can block sites ( I know Pro can). I think both have a password option (I think this is to get into the protection control option). This will stop anyone from changing the settings.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
615481	2007-11-27 04:03:00	www.keyghost.co.nz	robsonde (120)
615482	2007-11-27 10:41:00	I am not a lawyer but I can see some serious risks in doing anything like this. While it isn't illegal to install monitoring software on your computer, collecting information about your sister's use of it without informing her could constitute a serious privacy violation. Collection of personal information must be necessary, must be obtained directly from the individual with their consent if possible and regardless of means of collection they must be informed unless it would jeopardise the purpose of collection. I'm afraid to tell you that simply owning the machine does not give you any right to monitor your sister's activities without her consent. While I'm aware that the situation is probably very difficult, monitoring a person's activities without their knowledge should be a last resort approach. Installing a key logger could be considered a serious breach of trust. Even aside from the legal implications to deal with any issues discovered you would have to reveal your monitoring activities. I would recommend using some form of non-recording parental management software if possible. If you have to collect any information I would fully disclose what is being collected, why it is being monitored and how long it will be retained. Any attempt to circumvent protection measures should lead to access to the computer being removed and this should be stated up front. Setting strictly enforced rules about the use of your equipment is legally and morally sound. Secretive monitoring is shaky on both grounds.	TGoddard (7263)
615483	2007-11-27 10:53:00	First off, what are you worried about her doing thats breaching your trust? Visiting Porn sites? Downloading illegal software? Chatting with people via MSN / ICQ / whatever that she used to associate with? All respect due to the people who've offered suggestions but they're all very broad and easily foolable solutions so far. If you were to let us know specifically what you were wanting to monitor (Such as Browser history or MSN chats) then we can assist further. Otherwise you could completely miss the boat...	Chilling_Silence (9)
1 2