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| Thread ID: 85047 | 2007-11-27 18:03:00 | Major problems with my 160G Seagate IDE Hard drive! Please help me! | grahic (12930) | Press F1 |
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| 615686 | 2007-11-28 20:43:00 | 160gb drives are actually around $75. Seagate drives with 5 year warranties are a bit more expensive, about $78, so I'm also interested in your reasons for getting one off trademe. | utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 615687 | 2007-11-28 21:25:00 | 160gb drives are actually around $75. Seagate drives with 5 year warranties are a bit more expensive, about $78, so I'm also interested in your reasons for getting one off trademe. Does it really matter where he got it from or how much he paid for it - all the poster wants is help with fixing the problem. | wainuitech (129) | ||
| 615688 | 2007-11-28 22:33:00 | Well if he'd bought it from a shop it would probably be going back by now. There is a lot of evidence that most hard drive faults can be traced back to poor handling at some point outside the original factory. Buying off TradeMe raises the issue of what's happened to it before arriving in grahic's hands. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 615689 | 2007-11-28 22:54:00 | Well if he'd bought it from a shop it would probably be going back by now. There is a lot of evidence that most hard drive faults can be traced back to poor handling at some point outside the original factory. Buying off TradeMe raises the issue of what's happened to it before arriving in grahic's hands. Yep , thats why I asked in post 19 was it advertised as second hand or New, if it was new from a shop selling on trademe they usually know how to package /handle drives. If chkdsk fails, that does't always mean its its faulty sectors on the drive. But grahic has not yet replied with an answer to say its New or second hand. I've seen many of my customers drives with similar failures - and its not the drive - its the software. I have a much better program than seatools for detecting faulty sectors, Seatools has said drives are OK the one I use finds faults - but its not free. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 615690 | 2007-11-29 00:52:00 | Seatools will look for bad sectors. It won't diagnose all hardware faults. Does seatools also check the S.M.A.R.T. information? Its not 100% reliable, but its another avenue of information to help determine the cause. If Seatools doesnt check the SMART info, I think there are a few free utilities on the internet which check this for you. |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 615691 | 2007-11-29 01:52:00 | Yep , thats why I asked in post 19 was it advertised as second hand or New, if it was new from a shop selling on trademe they usually know how to package /handle drives. If chkdsk fails, that does't always mean its its faulty sectors on the drive. But grahic has not yet replied with an answer to say its New or second hand. I've seen many of my customers drives with similar failures - and its not the drive - its the software. I have a much better program than seatools for detecting faulty sectors, Seatools has said drives are OK the one I use finds faults - but its not free. it's second hand. |
grahic (12930) | ||
| 615692 | 2007-11-29 02:19:00 | guyz, i have downloaded the Seatools for "windows". I install it and i done 2 scans. One is "Short drive self test" and "short Generic". The Short drive self test failed while it was scanning and the short generic passed with no errors. I believe this is bad because it failed the short drive self test. But i dont know what i means. |
grahic (12930) | ||
| 615693 | 2007-11-29 02:36:00 | guyz, i have downloaded the Seatools for "windows". I install it and i done 2 scans. One is "Short drive self test" and "short Generic". The Short drive self test failed while it was scanning and the short generic passed with no errors. I believe this is bad because it failed the short drive self test. But i dont know what i means. The Drive may be faulty - If you want you can download This program Here (www.tomdownload.com) Its the one I use for testing sectors on customers hard drives. Its not free, but it will scan your drive a LOT more Accurately than seatools. it will scan each sector on the drive - and find any faulty ones. It tries to repair them, and does a good job if any are faulty. If the drives to bad I advice to dump it. The Trial version will only fix 1 sector at a each run, so if it has 100 failed sectors it would take 100 runs (I think you get the picture) You install it, then double click on the Desktop Icon to create a bootable CD As shown Here (www.imagef1.net.nz), boot the PC from the CD and follow onscreen instructions. WARNING: It does take a long time to run, I did a 120GB drive a couple of days ago took around 3 hours. The drive in question wouldn't boot would only blue screen on startup, ran this program, found 8 damaged sectors after about 15 minutes, did its thing, fixed all the bad sectors at once (paid version)when the PC rebooted it ran chkdsk itself, and then ran fine after that. If the drive is faulty, was there any sort of warranty from the person you brought it from? If the drive is faulty you may be able to get hold of the seller and get something done or it may simply be a bad buy. The price of that recover program wouldn't be worth it for 1 drive, better to cut the losses and purchase a new drive from a shop - at least that will have the warranty on it. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 615694 | 2007-11-29 03:18:00 | The Drive may be faulty - If you want you can download This program Here (www.tomdownload.com) Its the one I use for testing sectors on customers hard drives. Its not free, but it will scan your drive a LOT more Accurately than seatools. it will scan each sector on the drive - and find any faulty ones. It tries to repair them, and does a good job if any are faulty. If the drives to bad I advice to dump it. That program seems a version of Spinrite complete with similar mumbo jumbo. AFAIK Seatools needs to be running the long test to look for bad sectors. I'm not sure what influence software would have on a hardware reading and writing process handled by the drive. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 615695 | 2007-11-29 04:40:00 | That program seems a version of Spinrite complete with similar mumbo jumbo. AFAIK Seatools needs to be running the long test to look for bad sectors. I'm not sure what influence software would have on a hardware reading and writing process handled by the drive. That program I mentioned detects and repairs damaged sectors , it will also detect far more than the Seagate software does. The same drive I mentioned according to seatools was fine, yet the OS was obviously damaged, when the HD tried to boot it would blue screen as if there was a hardware fault - which there was - The HD. I ran that software - it fixed it and away it went - done it plenty of times - it works thats all I need to know. The reason I say try that software is simple - the trial version, which is free will tell you if the drives damaged or not. Seatools will still pick up faulty sectors in the quick test, esp if the drives really bad. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
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