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| 1421595 | 2016-06-08 05:42:00 | Nod32 - Simple and quick. Heres some excitement from today - just arrived back from a persons place. First uninstall AVAST (fully up to date and it had only scanned and said it was clean last night) -- there were obvious infections. 1st Run Malware Bytes - found and located 5146 different traces / Trojans. 2nd. Installed Nod32 Trial - While installing, it opened up a result window with Trojans and caught them. Set it to its full detection, on open Chrome Browser to see if I could reset the home page ( it was previously locked) - instantly grabbed a browser hijack , BJ browser Hijack /Trojan (something like that) Set a scan going, after 10 minutes it had detected and quarantined 8 more, left it scanning with instructions on what to do if it came up with a certain window (in other words call me and I'll talk them through). :D |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1421596 | 2016-06-08 09:12:00 | Nod 32, others not even in the running! Bit difficult though when client says what about something free? I tend to then make a pre informed judgement as to what is the better, free alternative, Avast or Windows Defender. If people are determined to have anything else, then I say, that is your choice, but you asked for advice and I told you! Don't be surprised if I'm back at your place next week because you have a problem! Cheers, LL |
lakewoodlady (103) | ||
| 1421597 | 2016-06-08 12:48:00 | Nod 32, others not even in the running! Bit difficult though when client says what about something free? I tend to then make a pre informed judgement as to what is the better, free alternative, Avast or Windows Defender. If people are determined to have anything else, then I say, that is your choice, but you asked for advice and I told you! Don't be surprised if I'm back at your place next week because you have a problem! Cheers, LL Windows Defender & Microsoft security can make the computer very slow, for some reason just about every time you launch a program it wants to scan the file first. If you exclude .exe files the computer runs much faster. |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 1421598 | 2016-06-08 20:41:00 | For all your guys out there you should read this and see what anti virus software is better than there competitors but est ( nod ) is not as reliable as others Kaspersky doesn't hog up my system and neither did bit defender www.av-comparatives.org cheers |
stevenvanduyn (17171) | ||
| 1421599 | 2016-06-08 21:57:00 | For all your guys out there you should read this and see what anti virus software is better than there competitors but est ( nod ) is not as reliable as others Kaspersky doesn't hog up my system and neither did bit defender www.av-comparatives.org cheers Those test sites are a complete waste of time. This subject has been brought up many times over the years, and its always the same. The tests are done in labs under controlled conditions, NOT in real life usage. Look at other tests on another site the results will always be different. I'd rather believe what I see in daily usage/results from customers computers than some fake lab tests. If you look at the latest you posted from that link April 2016. According to that Avast was better than Nod32, yet in March Avast was worse than Nod32. So please explain then why yesterday when doing a scan with Malware bytes, Avast missed over 5000 infections, some Trojans and Nod32 even after that found even more ? As for system Hogs -- Avast hogs more then others as well, AVG is a real system hog. Nod32, is not a system hog either. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1421600 | 2016-06-08 23:16:00 | I could say the same with Malwarebytes picking up infections missed by NOD. See that, often enough. AV cleanups are different for different infections. Some of the detections are just harmless leftovers or PUPs . When NOD detects Winzip extras as malware (PUP), does that mean other AV have missed it, of course not. Some infections require 4 different AV/malware scanners before finding one that detects it. Some malware isnt detected by any AV . They are all just a best effort sort of thing. And of course, cleanup is different to blocking. AV thats blocks really well may not be the best at cleanup, and vice versa . As for for AV Comparatives & other tests out there: when Norton was as its absolute worst some years back, it was still ranked in the top3 by most of those tests |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1421601 | 2016-06-08 23:33:00 | I always run malwarebytes first as its often quicker than Nod at scanning . Mind you I also set nod to deep scans, and change all the settings so it really digs deep, most people don't bother to change settings so its not working fully, this of course will cause it to take longer to scan . Nothing is perfect - totally agree, but what is obvious about those tests is that they are not actually true, Avast had scanned the night before and said the system was clean :lol: Just looking at the programs icons on the desktop, known malware, yet it missed the lot . As soon as I opened Chrome to change the home page, again malware had locked the settings, Instantly Nod32 grabbed it and removed it allowing change back to the previous Google (malwarebytes missed it) . While nod32 Was installing it picked up active Trojans ( not PUPS), so guess Avast again missed them . Yet "LAB" results say its better-- ( at what I don't know, not detection and stopping that's for sure) :) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1421602 | 2016-06-09 02:33:00 | My rule was always 1 antivirus - and I have to agree with Wainuitech about NOD. I do like Kapersky too but I found it more of a hog than NOD. And - in addition - run various antispywares..... |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1421603 | 2016-06-09 09:47:00 | At a persons place today, their PC had just updated to W10. Had to take a snap of this, otherwise no one would believe me. The inbuilt Windows defender, after I manually removed one piece of known malware went nuts with warnings -- it actually found infections :eek: 7234 Needles to say, I installed both Malwarebytes and Nod32. Nod32 went damn berserk instantly -- couldn't even get to the settings to fully install (Trial License code) and forget about setting it to max at first, not till it calmed down anyway. It was like a pin ball machine -- ding ding ding ding ding :D |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1421604 | 2016-06-09 22:30:00 | I get nothing....for over 15 years running and manually scanning with Avast home edition and Malwarebytes. Nothing. Seemingly therefore there are no infections. So if I ran Nod 32 it may well find something that it would class as infections? I believe I don't need to. Otherwise if it does find whatever, I may steer me to at least consider it. But PC (W10) running well, as with earlier versions. but then I have subsequent back ups. if people get hundreds of PC infections/issues - seems they are harvesting them through poor/unskilled/ignorant browsing habits. should they not be educated about it initially? Sometimes I wish I has infections, viruses or whatever so as to test the response of Avast/Malwarebytes. But all I do on the net is read, write, and a few YouTube views. Younger family folk I know seem to get PC infections due to their misguided browsing habits... |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
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