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Thread ID: 141900	2016-03-18 05:25:00	Windows XP Home	ruup (1827)	PC World Chat

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1417761	2016-03-19 14:17:00	I had to call M$ to get it registered, and they do that gladly it seems . I was wondering how it'd work, but there they wuz, all happy to register it for me . I had to go back to XP 'cause 7, 8, 8 . 1 and especially 10 relegated my drivers to my sound cards and VM AD/DA mixer ware as persona-non-grata . Microsoft helped you, yet you still feel the need to call them M$? It's 2016 not 2000	nmercer (3899)
1417762	2016-03-19 17:07:00	Yeah I do. M$ sux. They are pushing (too hard) to get everyone on 10 and they don't care if you are legal or not. That's just a super large corral to get everyone totally dependent on M$ for anything that relates to PCs. I smell rodents in the double bottoms. I most begrudgingly went to M$ to get 'legal' so I could run an OS that should be free to use since it's not supported anyway - but NO-O-O-O! They still want to control getting something about which they care nothing for and don't support any more. One big hate/reason for my distrust of M$ is that they obsoleted all my sound cards and drivers for stuff that I need to operate my recording studio stuff. Just there it was ----- one day, everything was not gonna work. Ever again. And M$ couldn't care less. What a cocky, cavalier and pompous attitude --- they declared everything I had as obsolete. Tough toenails. They didn't care a fig! So-o-o-o since the clock was running out on registering XP, I had no choice -- even though I had an illegal work-around that I actually didn't trust at all. Keeping a dead and unsupported OS hanging on them to do the registering of it is just wrong. It's the suck-y feeling you get that no matter what you do, M$ is still in control of your life on the internet. That's the reason why I am trying to learn Puppy - not a good thing to do at my age. So - yeah --- I STILL CALL THEM M$ since they are still in control of me - even for an obsolete OS that they should give away freely and without running through fire. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. M$ sux. And --- oh yeah --- M$ sux.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1417763	2016-03-19 19:53:00	an obsolete OS that they should give away freely and without running through fire. Why? It's in everyone's best interests to NOT use an obsolete OS.	pcuser42 (130)
1417764	2016-03-19 21:12:00	Keeping a dead and unsupported OS hanging on them to do the registering of it is just wrong. even for an obsolete OS that they should give away freely and without running through fire. Sorry SJ, but that argument doesn't really have any merit. (This is to do with anything) As time moves on, things improve, items become obsolete. Take this comparison, lets say you had a model T Ford -- Ford no longer produces them, bet if you went into your local auto repair shop and asked for parts for one they would laugh or at least give you a weird look :illogical. Even though parts may no longer be manufactured anything you brought, even second hand you would have to pay for it. Microsoft are not making you pay for the registering Of XP, only activating a licence, which btw you agree to when installing. Cant really se the problem with registration. If you are meaning calling MS and needing them to manually activate something is no big deal. If you want to use Linux instead that's your choice, and good on you, but don't complain about using software you want to use. Bet some of the old hardware wont work on Linux either.	wainuitech (129)
1417765	2016-03-19 21:18:00	Stick to XP if that's what works, and dislike MS if you don't approve of their business practices but you should at least be a bit realistic about your expectations. MS don't write the drivers for all your old hardware. The hardware manufacturers do. If there are no drivers for a newer OS it's because they have abandoned support, not MS. MS are a business and will not spend money and resources developing drivers for old hardware they don't have any stake in. A lot of companies use planned obsolescence as part of their strategy. MS have actually maintained support for XP for far longer than I would have expected and I think longer than most other OSes. Doesn't make them saints but perhaps they are not the worst company out there. And they do still support XP, for anyone with deep enough pockets to pay for it. Several large corporations and government departments have paid them to extend support rather than migrate to newer software.	dugimodo (138)
1417766	2016-03-19 21:32:00	I was at a friend's workshop a year or three ago when he had a traveling rep for generic car parts come in. He ordered sundry bits, then asked for a set of Model T brake shoes, no exchange, the originals were basically lumps of iron oxide in formation. The rep didn't even look up from his note taking, just asked "Bonded or riveted?" My friend went along with this and said "Oh bonded of course, it's a restoration", Rep kept writing and said "That's lucky, for bonded I would have to send them, but I have riveted sets in the van". True enough, he had two sets, 1/8" over size and 3/16" oversize. Apparently Model T parts don't come in metric sizes yet :) Pretty good service from a van. The shoes had been in the van when he took over the round many years and a couple of vans before and just kept getting moved into the new van. It was quite a while ago, the rep was from Don Agencies :-O	R2x1 (4628)
1417767	2016-03-20 01:28:00	I was at a friend's workshop a year or three ago when he had a traveling rep for generic car parts come in . He ordered sundry bits, then asked for a set of Model T brake shoes, no exchange, the originals were basically lumps of iron oxide in formation . The rep didn't even look up from his note taking, just asked "Bonded or riveted?" My friend went along with this and said "Oh bonded of course, it's a restoration", Rep kept writing and said "That's lucky, for bonded I would have to send them, but I have riveted sets in the van" . True enough, he had two sets, 1/8" over size and 3/16" oversize . Apparently Model T parts don't come in metric sizes yet :) Pretty good service from a van . The shoes had been in the van when he took over the round many years and a couple of vans before and just kept getting moved into the new van . It was quite a while ago, the rep was from Don Agencies :-O This is where I am in basing my logic on my complaint . I had that old XP-Pro legally installed and foolishly upped the ante to 7 and wham! It wouldn't play with my antediluvian gear . That was disturbing, because of the over $3000 USD in my audio capture devices, not one of them was viable any more . Replacements for those 'antique systems' would cost me over $7000 . 00 USD now and I wasn't gonna play that game!!!! And --- yeah ---- I can still buy parts for Model As, Model Ts . and everything after that at local parts houses but I can't get a driver for a sound card . No --- my anger is with M$ changing the horse for a robot and not giving people a way to use the older cards and gear like they USED to do by playing things in XP or Win2000, or ME or even NT mode . OK - that was a bit much --- the NT part anyway --- but I didn't like getting blindsided by M$ - 'cause the old drivers for XP still exist, it's just that 7, 8 and 10 won't let it happen . I blame M$, not the vendors since they got the door shut on them - mid stream too! Just one day before the fateful change over to 7, I had a pretty nice driver upgrade that solved a few nagging problems . Then ---- there ---- were ---- no ---- more--- problems . There --- were ---- no ---- more ---- drivers ---- at ---- all . They simply got shafted like I did and I refused to play their game .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1417768	2016-03-20 04:35:00	Joe, I get the feeling that you think M$ suck . Would that be right? :) :) I had a slide scanner that cost me 2 arms and3 legs . Reason for high cost as it was digital in the days of Win 3 . 2 . Then Olympus stopped making them and stopped writing drivers . Same predicament as you, but video instead of audio . Some guys tried writing a program to get around the problem but it never worked for me so I chucked the scanner in the wheelie bin . That solved the problem as I had scanned my 5000 or so slides and went to print film till digital came in . Kodachrome 25 ASA was considered to be the equivalent of 25 Megapixels and we are there now with such exciting ways of post processing . I am very happy with it all and wish digital had been there when I was photographing weddings . Just my experiences :( then :) when digital came in . Ken	kenj (9738)
1417769	2016-03-20 04:46:00	Joe, I get the feeling that you think M$ suck. Would that be right? :) :) Ken The thought is in the wind somewhere. I won't actually go out and protest M$, because they are too far away and I don't think they care anyway. I called them to complain a year ago and the tech told me to "buck up dude and get some new gear". It would be nice to pull someone like that through the tiny holes in my phone.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1417770	2016-03-20 04:51:00	This is where I am in basing my logic on my complaint . I had that old XP-Pro legally installed and foolishly upped the ante to 7 and wham! It wouldn't play with my antediluvian gear . That was disturbing, because of the over $3000 USD in my audio capture devices, not one of them was viable any more . . That's not the fault of Microsoft . Did Microsoft make the Audio Capture devices ?? My money would say NO . So why not have a go at the manufactures of the devices for not making drivers to keep up with the latest Operating system ? Just use XP then and be happy . Last time I heard it doesn't cost you a cent to activate or register a previous copy of XP with the exception of maybe a phone call . in NZ its Free .	wainuitech (129)
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