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Thread ID: 141933	2016-03-27 05:12:00	I See Living People......	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1418293	2016-03-27 05:12:00	Lots of people cruising the F1 site tonight, but not much chatter . I'm cruising too, the end of a very long weekend, and I'm sore, tired in a good 'tired-way" and got a lot accomplished . Sitting here, musing to me-e-self, and eating a gallon (NZ = 3 . 4 decahexasillimeters) of ice cream (NZ = semi-frozen and sweetened heavy cream milk product - usually with flavors [no spurious 'u'] that are either artificial or derived from non-artificial things or not) - this flavor is "Rocky Road" and it does not taste like Skippers Canyon Road, not with all the dirt and potholes and scattered car parts and tires (no 'y'' there) and oil and gasoline (NZ = petrolisne, [silent 's']) . Dug four post holes for new fence king posts and barb wired and stapled them all together to repair what the wind and trees did to the fence last month . Yeah - SurferJoe's a little slow on the drop there, but at least we don't have cows pushing or horses back from the south rodeo circuit yet . They aren't our horses, we just babysit them (NZ = we don't really 'sit' on the horses, nor do we do the same to any itinerant babies that come around here - accidentally or otherwise) . Gotta go get my driver's license renewed here in Montana . Hitting seventy years old requires a full-on eye test, driving test and answering basic questions like: "What's the correct side of the road on which to drive?" I know this one - it's the 'correct side'! I didn't have to do that in Arizona nor California when I got licenses there . In Arizona, I woke the attendant sleeping on his cot in the main lobby at MVD (NZ = Motor Vehicle Division) . I asked the attendant if I needed a driver's test and he asked me 'Where did you drive from?" (ending a sentence with a preposition - something you should never end a sentence with!) . "I drove from near Palm Springs", I told him that since if I said I was from Anza California, he'd never figure where that was and maybe not issue me a license . "And --- did you hit anybody driving here?" he asked . "No" I said . "Good, you passed the driving test" he beamed . "And do I need an eye test" I asked, knowing that my vision just - er, may have slipped a notch or two . "Well" he said: "did you park between the white lines in the parking lot?" he asked me . "Well, yes I did" I said, beaming back at him . "OK - you passed the eye test too", and with that he took four pictures of me, let me choose which one I wanted to be on my new Arizona driver's license, and handed it to me, still hot from the lamination process . Well --- that's all the news from home . How're youse guys?	SurferJoe46 (51)
1418294	2016-03-27 06:49:00	Yeah, Joe. Licensing procedures can be weird ... not to mention the experiences at the hands of bureaucracy: In the 70's, having only landed 3 days prior in LA, I dropped by the FAA (aka Federal Aviation Administration or in NZ, CAA) to get my US Licence. After presenting my NZ and Oz Pilot licences, Passport, and filling out a form, the FAA bloke wandered out back, and there tapped out on a typewriter (Google it for those who don't know what a typewriter is/was :lol:) my USA Pilots Licence. This Licence now authorised me to fly anywhere in US airspace (except over the White House, or in those days including the Western White House at San Clemente, various Air Force bases), and mix with the big boys at LAX, JFK, CHI, HOU etc). Elapsed time - 30 minutes Next stop, in the next hour, the California DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles). There I sat a written test, and a half hour driving test. Then and only then after a check with Immigration to check my passport was in order and I was not a dreaded illegal immigrant, was I issued with a California driving licence. Elapsed time - 5 hours. Fast forward 8 years, now in London UK. My California drivers licence was about to expire. I duly presented myself to the UK authorities to request a UK drivers licence. Step 1: I was to present myself for a written examination at a date to be advised. Step 2: I was to apply for a road test. So far so good. Next (a month later) I was advised the written text would be "administered" 7 months later. "Should that be successful" my road test would be scheduled for a date - 3 years :mad: ahead. Not all bad though, the bureaucrats did offer I could agree to a driving test at short notice. Great. Getting somewhere at last. I answered: anywhere within 50 miles of London, at 24 hours notice. The response came back (after an appropriately bureaucratic delay) ... 1 year, 5 months. In the meantime, my drivers licence was about to expire. Back to California and the DMV. I appealed for their help, and they renewed my California Licence without a problem and send me an attachment to attach to my licence, keeping me legal to drive. I never even tried for a pilots licence in the UK! :groan:	WalOne (4202)
1418295	2016-03-27 18:24:00	Hm. Is the UK that screwed up? I thought it was California at that. Arizona was easy. But Montana! I never had nor could find a birth certificate. Montana insisted that I had to have one for their driver's license. Without it, I cannot get a fishing license nor a hunting license either. I've been fishless for four years now! I've got to go away for a couple of hours, but when I get back I'll regale you with my Montana licensing procedure. BBS	SurferJoe46 (51)
1418296	2016-03-27 18:49:00	Great storys guys. Similar experience the US. An hour after arriving in LA, visited the nearest FAA office, handed over my NZ CPL and Passport and after checking it all was issued with a US CPL not valid for Ag Ops. No Charge. Went back next year and sat the CPL Exam, 100 multiple answers on a computer, took less that an hour and was issued with my pass marks at the counter on the way out. There was a small charge , around $65 from memory. Arranged an FAA examiner for the next day, drove to Bakersfield for a flight test. Did that in a Cessna 150 and then another flight in a Piper Arrow to demonstrate my ability in a complex aircraft and having succesfully completed both flights was issued with an unrestricted CPL. Compare that with NZ. Tennessee driving licence was a bit more of a hassle. Waited in line at the DMV for 5 hours to get a driving test and just as I got to the counter they pulled down the slide and said "Closed" Same next day. Then found a friend of a friend that worked for the DMV a few miles north of Memphis who said "Come out in the morning before we open" I did. Was let in the back door, had my photo taken and issued with the licence. No charge. Outide there was a queue a mile long.	tut (12033)
1418297	2016-03-27 18:50:00	Hitting seventy years old requires a full-on eye test, driving test and answering basic questions like: "What's the correct side of the road on which to drive?" I My mum renewed hers the other week. When over 75 here, you go to the doc and they sign a bit of paper saying you are fit to drive (usually there is an eye check too). That's it. However if the doc doesn't sign it - and that can be because of eyes, dementia, general health, whatever the doc thinks.... My dad didn't pass at his doc - he had glaucoma, so he went to an optometrist and whined, she passed him with the condition no night driving or long distance driving. Really, she shouldn't have passed him at all.	pctek (84)
1418298	2016-03-27 19:16:00	Got my driving licence in England in the 80's. Turned up for the test went outside with the examiner, had to point out the vehicle (automobile to yanks) told to read the licence plate of the car 3 down from mine, that was the eye test. Went to Canada few years later walked in to the Canadian driving centre, showed my licence got given a Canadian one on the spot. Move to NZ (Upside down land to Joe) had to take the multi choice paper t get the licence.	gary67 (56)
1418299	2016-03-27 23:32:00	OK --- I'm back now - belly's full, pants are dry and the fire's blazing nicely . . . . . . . . to continue . . . . Montana, as I said - requires a birth certificate to get a driver's license . This is the only state I know that demands this document - one which I have never had . To be fair, the birth certificate may be a national requirement since 9-11, so I'll concede that they might have a good reason . All my other licenses were before 9-11 . However ----> I cannot prove that I am a US citizen or not . But that didn't keep me out of the US Navy --- nor from getting a California or Arizona driver's license . I truthfully was born on a secret US Navy base in Connecticut (USA) my mom told me --- and they didn't issue a birth certificate at all . The US Navy couldn't get one when I joined up - but they didn't care 'cause a warm body is valuable no matter if I was a US citizen or not . One wouldda thunk that a federal agency like the Navy could get another federal agency to find a record of my birth - but they couldn't . Fast forward to me retiring and Social Security tossed a small hissy until I wrote an affidavit to the statement I made --- that I really was born in the US but it was on a secret Navy Base in Connecticut . They gave me my Social Security alright . Montana - on the other hand has not ---- and will not ---- give me a license until I can produce proof of citizenship . Therein lies the hitch! I called the City Of New London, CT . , Bureau of Records and they told me that ALL Naval births are recorded in Groton, CT . , and gave me that phone number . I called Groton Bureau of Vital Records ad they said my birth was not recorded in their files and that I should call the city where I was born - in this case New London --------again . Expecting another run-around,- a guy answered the phone this time and asked me to let him have an hour to check on another record field, across the street in the basement library at an old church . He called me in 45 minutes and said he had my birth certificate and to send him $8 . 00 and he'd make a certified copy for himself and send me the original . Wow! I was so stoked! I could finally prove I was born! Well - now I've got the birth certificate and next week I'm gonna go get my Montana driver's license . It'll be free 'cause I'm over 65 and a US Veteran . Then I'm getting my first Montana fishing license . . . . which again is free 'cause of my US Naval service and Agent Orange exposure . Imagine that --- I got a birth certificate and a driver's license pending --- and a free fishing license too . I could also apply for a (free to me) hunting license, but I don't hunt . All that for one stupid piece of paper which I always totally believed never existed --- because it was a non-birth certificate from a secret vaporous navy base --- and that the SS --- and the US Navy could/did never find - and Social Security didn't find either . . . . . because it WAS ACROSS THE STREET IN THE BASEMENT OF AN OLD CHURCH! Fer cryin' out loud! Montana wouldn't accept my DD243 - that is my US Naval discharge papers indicating my name, records of merit and awards and all that - hah! but not good enough! ("Anybody can join the US armed forces and get discharge papers" said Montana) My grammar school graduation wasn't good enough ("Even illegal aliens can go to school" - Montana again) My High School graduation certificate and even my photo in the Class of 1964 yearbook weren't good enough ("Anyone can go to high school and get their picture into the school yearbook" - Montana) . My Junior College records were no good either ("Anybody can go to a junior college" Montana) . My matriculation in University of California, Irvine Campus didn't count either (Montana again) . My Social Security account and check stubs weren't good enough ("Anybody can pay into SS and get money back" said Montana) . Now, as a payback - I'm gonna eat every trout that I can catch . That'll show 'em! PS: If anyone finds themselves in another country (or in my case, STATE) other than their originating license provider - they are legally entitled to drive on their expired license as long as they haven't been back to their licensing authority (US law) . IOW, if you get caught short in China with an outdated NZ, US, Canadian, French, Venetian certificate - it is considered legal to use until you return to the place that issued it . I imagine that there's a statute of limitations though . Your results may vary according to the whim of your licensing authority . The US affords this condition as a citizen's right of passage, unless that same citizen take residence in a new country or state . Since I still own property in Arizona, I was capable of calling Arizona MVD and having them send me an extension - good for up to a year - on my Arizona license . But I wanted this done and gone away for reasons of personal grief and concern of driving a Montana registered vehicle with an Arizona driver's license . Perfectly legal - but not cricket, if you catch my drift . I can honestly say now that; here it comes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I WUZ BORN'D! :banana	SurferJoe46 (51)
1418300	2016-03-28 00:19:00	You should write a book sometime Joe. Preferably whilst you are still alive :)	CliveM (6007)
1418301	2016-03-28 00:33:00	I feel like the Forest Gump in our neighborhood. I've done a lot of things, been a lot of places, met a lot of people. My mom said I could sell ice boxes to Eskimos. Can I dictate a book to Siri? I'm tired of my own Columbus Typing Methodology (seek and ye shall find).	SurferJoe46 (51)
1418302	2016-03-28 05:31:00	Good to see you haven't lost the ability to say nowt with so many words, keep it up.	Cicero (40)
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