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| Thread ID: 86230 | 2008-01-09 04:04:00 | HDMI to HDTV on VISTA (pulls hair out) | SC0UT (13260) | Press F1 |
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| 628563 | 2008-01-12 00:43:00 | Connector DVI connector pins (view of plug) DVI connector pins (view of plug) Color coded DVI connector with pin descriptions Color coded DVI connector with pin descriptions The DVI connector usually contains pins to pass the DVI-native digital video signals. In the case of dual-link systems, additional pins are provided for the second set of data signals. As well as digital signals, the DVI connector includes pins providing the same analog signals found on a VGA connector, allowing a VGA monitor to be connected with a simple plug adapter. This feature was included in order to make DVI universal, as it allows either type of monitor (analog or digital) to be operated from the same connector. The DVI connector on a device is therefore given one of three names, depending on which signals it implements: * DVI-D (digital only) * DVI-A (analog only) * DVI-I (integrated, digital & analog) The connector also includes provision for a second data link for high resolution displays, though many devices do not implement this. In those that do, the connector is sometimes referred to as DVI-DL (dual link). The long flat pin on a DVI-I connector is wider than the same pin on a DVI-D connector, so it is not possible to connect a male DVI-I to a female DVI-D by removing the 4 analog pins. It is possible, however, to connect a male DVI-D cable to a female DVI-I connector. Many flat screen LCD monitors have only the DVI-D connection so that a DVI-D male to DVI-D male cable will suffice when connecting the monitor to a computer's DVI-I female connector. DVI is the only widespread video standard that includes analog and digital transmission options in the same connector.[citation needed] Competing standards are exclusively digital: these include a system using low-voltage differential signaling (LVDS), known by its proprietary names FPD (for Flat-Panel Display) Link and FLATLINK; and its successors, the LVDS Display Interface (LDI) and OpenLDI. Some new DVD players, TV sets (including HDTV sets) and video projectors have DVI/HDCP connectors; these are physically the same as DVI connectors but transmit an encrypted signal using the HDCP protocol for copy protection. Computers with DVI video connectors can use many DVI-equipped HDTV sets as a display; however, due to Digital Rights Management, it is not clear whether such systems will eventually be able to play protected content, as the link is not encrypted. Got this from here: en.wikipedia.org Also this: en.wikipedia.org Seems to be lots of different versions of HDMI/DVI plugs/sockets/cables, perhaps you've got non-matching interfaces, or your cards not outputting the correct signal. :eek: |
feersumendjinn (64) | ||
| 628564 | 2008-03-03 11:03:00 | Windows detects the second monitor Windows knows what brand of monitor is plugged in Windows allows me to drag items over to the other monitor Windows allows me to set the resolution correctly to 1920x1080@60hz All I get on the TV is a nice pretty blue screen when I am on the HDMI source Television: 42 inch Toshiba LCD 42X3500A Full HD Hi Scout, not sure if you ever got this issue resolved - no further responses from 12 Feb . Anyway, if still unresolved . . . . I bought the exact same TV yesterday (42" Toshiba LCD 42X3500A Full HD) and while I haven't (yet) hooked up a PC to it, I couldn't help but notice a couple of things not mentioned by anyone, which may help (hopefully) . Everyone is looking at it from the PC/Vista end of the problem (great advice too), but you stated that Windows detects the 'Monitor'(TV), it's brand etc . . . . But no one, bar you, has looked at it from the TV end of the problem . 'CYaBro' has a Toshiba 47" HDTV and has a PC working via HDMI . . . . so it should definitely work for your PC & TV Admittedly the Toshiba 42X3500A instructions are a little poor in parts, but Pages 30-33 have some info on connecting PCs via HDMI . (Let me know if you need a copy of these - I'm assuming you have them) Anyway, with that said, I typically hate reading instructions and I noticed a few things when (feebly) attempting to setup my TV yesterday without them . 1 . I have REGZA-LINK switched ON (from remote control 'MENU', then REGZA-LINK) . . . . although I don't have another Toshiba product attached (it's a Panasonic PVR) . Switching this on enables 'TV Auto Input Switch' to be switched ON 2 . To select the Input channel (one od the 2 HDMI ports of VGA PC) you need to '->O' on the remote, and navigate down . to the the HDMI input you're PC is connected to . Mine displays "HDMI1 REGZA-LINK" . . . as it see my PVR connected to HDMI port 1 . 3 . I also have the 'PC' audio set to go via HDMI - Click 'MENU' on the remote, select ''SETUP' then 'AV Connection' and press 'OK' on your remote - change PC/HDMI1 audio to 'HDMI1' and HDM1 audio (below that) to 'Auto') Hopefully, you'll get to the bottom of it . If you do, please post the resolution as I'm sure I'll be in exactly the same place in a few weeks . ;) Good luck . |
Hamster33 (13262) | ||
| 628565 | 2008-05-12 01:37:00 | I bought this TV (Toshiba 42X3500A) with the intention of building a HTPC to connect using HDMI @ 1080p to utilise the full resolution of this TV. It turns out that I am having exactly the same problem. I am using the Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H which has both DVI and HDMI outputs. You can switch between these using the bios, but in both instances nothing is displayed on the TV, you just get a blue screen. The TV works ok using the standard DSUB connector which is most readable at 1280 x 768. I'm running Vista Ultimate x64, but am thinking of trying Windows XP Media Centre Edition, though don't hold much expectation that this will make much of a difference. I have updated to the latest F4 bios but it doesn't make any difference. I have also seen quite a few posts regarding the order of powering devices up to prevent race conditions on the HDMI channel. Most of these are from 2005 so not sure if this has been resolved now, but in any case changing the power-on sequence has had no effect. I'm currently trying to contact Toshiba support to get their insight, & tomorrow I'll take the PC somewhere where I can test it out on different devices. Any further comments & suggestions welcome. |
TheKerno (13263) | ||
| 628566 | 2008-05-12 02:07:00 | Probably won't help but I will be doing a HTPC setup for a customer who I sold a 42A3500 to. It is not a full 1080p panel though. I will let you know how I get on. Should be later on this week hopefully, just waiting on some parts for the HTPC. Seems strange that you are having problems, as I said earlier my Toshiba 1080p TV works great with my HTPC via HDMI. My HTPC is running Windows Vista on an Asus M2A-VM HDMI mainboard. |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 628567 | 2008-05-12 03:15:00 | Sadly this sounds so very familiar to me having recently done battle with an HTPC connecting to a 42" Plasma While mines now working after much study and trying stuff i have a couple of tips that might help you. While Cyberlink make some rather fickle software at times, this tool was quite helpfull www.cyberlink.com its an advisor app that you run and it will let you know if all your components are HDCP compliant and other stuff that could potentially be tripping you up. this showed me where my setup was going wrong after I solved the other bits. Cant hurt to give it a go, it might help and its not a big download. |
kersonan (13264) | ||
| 628568 | 2008-05-12 03:50:00 | I still don't think that it is an HDCP problem though. HDCP is only for playing back HD video like Blu-ray etc. HDCP won't stop the BIOS or Windows desktop from showing up on the TV. |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 628569 | 2008-05-12 05:11:00 | Having wasted enough time trying to get this kit working, I gave the guys down at JB-HiFi in Albany a call and popped down there with my PC. We connected the PC containing the Gigabyte GA78GM-S2H (v1.0, latest F4 bios) up to 4 different TV's using both the DSUB->DSUB and HDMI->HDMI connectors. Happy to say that the DSUB (VGA) cable worked everytime. I wish I could say the same about the HDMI connections.....here's my results. Toshiba 42X3500A - FAIL Sony Bravia X KVL40X350A - FAIL Philips 42PFL7432 - WORKED Samsung LA40N81BX - WORKED On each TV we tried a number of resolutions, however it either worked on the TV at each resolution we tried, or it failed altogether. With regards to the Toshiba, I'm thinking about returning it for a refund. There is an annoying high-pitched noise from the TV that you can hear across the room when the TV is on, and combining this with the HDMI failure it's a lot of money to spend on something I'm not completely happy with. I found out that Toshiba TV's are supported by a company called Monaco in NZ, and was informed by them that this problem hasn't been reported before and I would be entitled to a refund within the first month from purchase. |
TheKerno (13263) | ||
| 628570 | 2008-05-12 05:26:00 | Welcome to PressF1 SC0UT. That's quite a setup you have there, a lot of people would give their front teeth for that! ;) Front and back for me =D |
password (5384) | ||
| 628571 | 2008-05-12 05:35:00 | Kersonan, thanks for your reply. I downloaded the HD advisor and ran the blu-ray check. I was very surprised to see that the video driver is not showing up as HDCP compliant, though the Graphics Card (ATI Radeon HD 3200) is. I'm running version 8.476.0.0 of the drivers which I believe are the latest available. I am starting to wonder once again whether Vista x64 is the problem here. I'm very surprised that the Sony didn't work - anybody got any insight into the technical nature of what the underlying cause is? Also a big thanks to the guys at JB HiFi for their help in performing the tests above. |
TheKerno (13263) | ||
| 628572 | 2008-05-12 06:24:00 | thats most likely due to this activate leet copy/paste from cyberlinks site skills What graphics card do I need to play Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD titles on my computer? It is recommended that you have one of the graphics cards with the following graphics processor unit (GPU) installed on your computer in order to play Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD titles: * Intel 965G, G33 graphics * nVidia: GeForce 7600 GT, GeForce 7800 GTX 512, GeForce 7900 GX2, GeForce 7900 GTX, GeForce 7950 GX2, GeForce 8400 series, GeForce 8500 series, GeForce 8600 series, GeForce 8800 series * ATI (minimum requirements): ATI Radeon X1600 series, X1800 series, X1900 series * ATI (recommended requirements): ATI Radeon HD 2400, 2600, 2900, 3400, 3600, 3800 series you would assume that 2900 then 3400 means that yours sitting in the middle at 3200 should work, i'm not 100% here but my onboard ATI claimed HDCP compliance but wasnt at the end of the day. in the end i got a card that was listed and all is well. though i'm inclined to support Cyabro's comment that this may not be HDCP related, as he was very helpfull and knowledgable in helping with my problem. |
kersonan (13264) | ||
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