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| Thread ID: 142068 | 2016-04-19 01:36:00 | Climate change and sea levels | kenj (9738) | PC World Chat |
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| 1419298 | 2016-04-19 01:36:00 | This may cause a bit of discussion I hope after the latest reports on the TV today. My input is in the fact that many years ago as a kid growing up in New Lynn, Auckland we used to bike over to Blockhouse Bay to swim as a change to the muddy Whau Creek. I remember going there once at the time of a King tide and finding the sea up over the seawall and onto the grass to a depth about midway up my legs.That would have been about 65 years ago. I am wondering if the same has happened since? Do any of you Aucklanders know or remember this happening up there. I also remember the North Western Motorway being built and the big tides causing all sorts of problems with flooding. The motorway still has these problems amd climate change is trotted out as the reason for this. I wonder if the doomsayers realise how long this has been going on? Your thoughts please. Ken (You can take the kid out of the West, but you can't take the Westie out of the kid) :) |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1419299 | 2016-04-19 01:47:00 | There is nothing to fear! BM has assured us numerous times that neither thing exists. :D So how's the weather up your way? |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1419300 | 2016-04-19 02:17:00 | TAuckland we used to bike over to Blockhouse Bay to swim as a change to the muddy Whau Creek. The motorway still has these problems amd climate change is trotted out as the reason for this. I wonder if the doomsayers realise how long this has been going on? Eww...mud flats! The NW has been raised at the sides - so should be no more flooding. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1419301 | 2016-04-19 02:20:00 | The 'experts' on Both sides of the arguments are as bad as each other Cherry picking data Using short term local events as long term proof . falsifying, 'adjusting' historical data to suit Ignoring any contradicting data using emotive terms rather than rational arguments : "denyers" stating wishfull opinion as a fact 'all scientists agree with this' blaming either 'big business' or Green Govt Depts for funding most of the research & supposedly ensuring bias (on both sides) The climate has being going up & down for thousands of years. Climate in the UK used to be much warmer than now (based on what the used to be able to grown there ) . Its also been alot colder than now in the UK. The long term climate system simply cannot be predicted , so how do we know what is man based & what is part of a natural cycle On the other hand, its ridiculous to think that cutting down 75% of all the earths trees wont have any effect on CO2 levels. Truly want to reverse climate warming, then go back to the stone age. Bulldoze all the houses, cities, farms & replant forests Buying a Prius, or recycling plastic bottles isnt going to help anything :) It just make a few wealthy people feel better |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1419302 | 2016-04-19 02:55:00 | There is nothing to fear! BM has assured us numerous times that neither thing exists. :D So how's the weather up your way? And what’s more he is unrepentant. :D Take a look at THIS (www.sail-world.com) and tell me how Roald Amundsen managed to sail through the Northwest Passage over 100 years ago. Must have been less Ice then. :lol: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1419303 | 2016-04-19 03:10:00 | We've done the global warming thing to death in the past and I don't think anyone around here is likely to change their minds based on anything we might say. Any changes you may notice in your own life time are not likely to be large enough to confirm or deny climate change and any individual events taken by themselves mean nothing. A particularly warm or cold day or week, or even season is not evidence of climate change by itself and the occasional very large tide does not indicate average sea levels at all. If you are not looking at global data over a significant period of time you can not make any judgements as to climate. At the risk of fulfilling 1101's prophecy I'd say 'most' scientists agree climate change is happening. Where all the debates and uncertainty are is around the details of that and how much of it is due to us. The rate of change and any future predictions has not been reliably established, neither has the extent of our influence or ability to prevent it. However, whatever the reality of climate change might be burying our heads in the sand and doing nothing while the worlds population continues to grow and the forests continue to shrink is incredibly short sighted. The world needs to shift away from models based on growth and start working towards sustainability or one day our descendants will face calamity. If we don't regulate ourselves it'll happen naturally anyway and it won't go well for whoevers around at the time. Whole civilisations have disappeared in the past after growing past their ability to sustain themselves (at least that's the popular theory, no one was actually there to know). I don't concern myself much with all this, I'll be long gone before it hits the fan and that itself is part of the problem. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1419304 | 2016-04-19 05:20:00 | We've done the global warming thing to death in the past and I don't think anyone around here is likely to change their minds based on anything we might say. I agree, but all we can hope for is to try and offset the unsubstantiated doctrine that the Goofy Greens put forward as fact. Hopefully, some of those that have been subjected to this brainwashing will take time out do some research themselves, not just accept it. As for Climate Change, well it’s been going on since Adam was in triangular trousers, so what’s the problem? If population is considered a problem, then population should be addressed, not some Polar Bear on an iceberg. |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1419305 | 2016-04-19 05:30:00 | I believe that the moon is made out of cheese...... :) | Zippity (58) | ||
| 1419306 | 2016-04-19 05:38:00 | 7119Climate change has always happened, on a mega scale. Look at the data from the eons....not the last 100 years or so, So we're the problem? I give you we don't help, we seem determined to cover the planet in concrete and kill off the remaining other animals. All bad for our own long term health. But banging on about warmness is pathetic. And doing what? It will warm and cool, whether we drive cars and cut trees or not. We should worry more about our out of control breeding, our slaughter of the other species - intentional or not, I don't mean just things like tigers and elephants and whales. Bees for instance. No one thinks about the results of extinct bees properly, nor cares. No one thinks about the population properly either. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1419307 | 2016-04-19 05:51:00 | What?! The bees are going?? |
Zippity (58) | ||
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