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Thread ID: 42853 2004-02-24 23:37:00 OT: What is the length of a piece of string? Billy T (70) PC World Chat
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217965 2004-02-27 00:47:00 The perceived length of the string has a corellation to the perceived value of the string in today's materialistic society.

In Auckland, the string has a value associated with its use on Earl Grey teabags and upmarket Coffee bags used in the Cafe Latte scene.

In Invertarctica the string has more funamental uses, such as holding up Lawyer's trousers and for tying around their fingers to remind them they have a Court appointment. And for tying the cat to the top of the fence to stop the wind blowing the poor animal off...

Accordingly Auckland string is longer as it has a much greater perceived value.
godfather (25)
217966 2004-02-27 01:18:00 Enough of those disparaging comments against southlanders thanks GF. For trousers we use leather belts, PDA's and laptops connected with woosh for appointments, and we generally let our cats come inside if it gets windy. PoWa (203)
217967 2004-02-27 03:56:00 . The Superstring folk
> are all in a twist right now trying to work inflation
> into the eq so that they can deal with the "flatness
> problem". But then, what is the length of this
> thread ??

Well it depends on whether the Universe is open or closed. The string created at Planck Time may be of infinite width but no length. How does your observer get to the middle then? ]:)

And GF, having recently had the privilege of visiting Southland you will know that our cats are very robust and need no help staying on our fences. Indeed getting a piece of string strong enough to satisfy their playful whimsys is difficult.

You can keep your Auckland string - its probably all that is keeping the place together. :D
Winston001 (3612)
217968 2004-02-27 08:25:00 My word :O

What a most interesting and erudite discussion of the properties of a length of string.

Perhaps somebody might like to proffer their opinion as to the length of this most worthwhile piece of string from the perspective of a viewer at the event horizon of a black hole.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :D
Such dissertation must take into account the
famous dictum: "A black hole has no hair"
Billy T (70)
217969 2004-02-27 08:33:00 > > Nice to see you back Susan B.
> > :-)
>
> ditto

Double ditto :)

and Congratulations to Greg S for getting to host the aardvark forums :)
stu140103 (137)
217970 2004-02-27 10:48:00 > Perhaps somebody might like to proffer their opinion
> as to the length of this most worthwhile piece of
> string from the perspective of a viewer at the event
> horizon of a black hole .
>
> Cheers
>
> Billy 8-{) :D
> Such dissertation must take into account the
> famous dictum: "A black hole has no hair"

The famous oracle, Prof . Lucid, (loose id, NOT loo kid) observed
that all black holes cease to be black at night, and indeed,
become colourless . However, our doughty observer reported that
"All visible strings have linked to become recursive at the
occurence of the horizontal event, and since they are now
never - ending, must be infinitely long . " This relatively answers
post No . 1 for singular occurences . Perhaps .
R2x1 (4628)
217971 2004-02-27 11:32:00 > Of course Billy overlooks Heisenberg's Uncertainty
> Principle which says that the act itself of observing
> the string will affect it's properties .
>
> And if the string is with Shrodingers cat in its box
> then we have a real problem : is the string there or
> not? Does it exist in another universe? How can it be
> measured?
>
> At least the relativistic problem is neatly solved by
> Tony's solution: the length of a fast moving string
> yields two results in terms of the remote observer
> and the string itself, but both are equally valid .
>
> And then there is Superstring which gets into quantum
> physics and unfortunately Tonys answer is of no help .
> :(
>
>

Additionally, Heisenberg's Certainty Principle states
that the act of posting observers tends to skew the
cost of the experiment toward infinity .
R2x1 (4628)
217972 2004-02-27 13:16:00 > Not so, my friend. If you place yourself at the
> centre of the string, which ever way you look the
> string halflength is the same. The Superstring folk
> are all in a twist right now trying to work inflation
> into the eq so that they can deal with the "flatness
> problem". But then, what is the length of this
> thread ??

Ah yes but how do you place yourself in the centre without measuring it to find out where the centre is. and no you cannot just simply fold it it half because you can never get the ends exactly right so you can never ever be exactly in the centre.
Big John (551)
217973 2004-02-27 13:21:00 Simple - Use Einstein's 3rd. theory of relativity.


Ask your uncle
R2
R2x1 (4628)
217974 2004-02-28 08:54:00 Yes Yes!!!!. A complete tread hijack into astrophysics! I knew I could do it.

(does triumphant stagger around the living room before disbelieving spouse and assorted cats)

I'm just a bit worried about the string at a naked singularity. It may take many weeks for me to fall through the event horizon but the string has gone on ahead according to Professor Lucid and is now infinite. What about the end R2 is holding on to?

Huh. So much for Billy's "no hairs". No strings attached perhaps? ;)
Winston001 (3612)
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