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Thread ID: 50665 2004-10-28 07:13:00 New Chat url, for those who missed it. beetle (243) PC World Chat
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285561 2004-11-24 08:45:00 anyone up for a natter?????


beetle 		beetle (243)
285562 2004-11-25 03:25:00 > Is your server Off-shore?

It's at my house. A traceroute to a friend of mine is 4 hops. Don't have the traceroute to paste in but:

1. My server
2. My router
3. Orcon server
4. His computer

On a different ISP it is 6 hops including my router.

But yes I agree that it passes through other machines - this is obvious. But I personally have no problem with trusting the machines at Global Gateway with the data - I'm sure they don't save/read it!

Cheers George 		george12 (7)
285563 2004-11-25 04:04:00 > > Is your server Off-shore?
>
> It's at my house. A traceroute to a friend of mine is
> 4 hops. Don't have the traceroute to paste in but:
>
> 1. My server
> 2. My router
> 3. Orcon server
> 4. His computer
>
> On a different ISP it is 6 hops including my router.
Matt's traceroute [v0.54]
Gamma Thu Nov 25 17:02:11 2004
Keys: D - Display mode R - Restart statistics Q - Quit
Packets Pings
Hostname %Loss Rcv Snt Last Best Avg Worst
1. ???
2. 222-152-125- 1. adsl.ihug.co.nz 0% 5 5 48 47 49 54
3. 22 2. 15 2. 127.53 0% 5 5 44 44 46 51
4. 22 2. 15 2. 127.1 0% 5 5 154 46 86 154
5. 20 2. 50.245.193 0% 5 5 48 46 48 51
6. 203.96.120.30 0% 5 5 47 47 49 52
7. 20 2. 50.119.154 0% 4 4 50 47 48 50
8. ???
9. 22 2. 15 2. 55.106 0% 4 4 102 98 101 102

I hope that comes out okay... But yeah, from work its a good 9 hops. Now, theres the opportunity for logging at each of those, so you can see why I want SSL (Well, SSL sucks, but its all that IRC supports).

> But yes I agree that it passes through other machines
> - this is obvious. But I personally have no problem
> with trusting the machines at Global Gateway with the
> data - I'm sure they don't save/read it!

Isnt ignorance bliss :D
No offense intended....
But what would stop them? Surely if you worked at an ISP you'd be logging your customers transmissions?! What if the CIA came-a-knocking because one of your clients had tried to hack into the CIA online database?
Youd be in the poo if you couldnt produce results of who had what IP at said time right? So they're logging certain things regardless.... But with HDD space being cheap as chips, why wouldnt they do some heavy logging of the likes of emails, or certain ports?

Dont just "assume" because you've not been told they are - Instead, assume they are because theyve not told you ;-)

Ive got a bot on my server doing some basic things, but he's not too useful ATM - So I'm going to have a play with another tonight and I'll see how I get on with him.

Cheers


Chill. 		Chilling_Silence (9)
285564 2004-12-03 01:05:00 :)



Ok for those that think i live here, im posting in the hope that there will be a get together by PF1 crew tonight from about 8 or 8.30 pm and just a general chat????? til late or early depending on who's clock ya watch...:^O


and all are welcome, regulars and newbs......


at the new chat page...:p and this will give those plenty of time to get names and passwords at the ready :D

see you later
:)


come and see us sometime, it does get used.

:)
beetle 		beetle (243)
285565 2004-12-03 01:29:00 >Ok for those that think i live here, im posting in the hope that there will >be a get together by PF1 crew tonight .

Surely that's a cue for a song,I shall sing one at once...are you lonesome tonight......... 		Thomas (1820)
285566 2004-12-03 01:34:00 is there any celebrity persons attending who could tempt us into coming noone (22)
285567 2004-12-03 01:48:00 Elvis may be there;)

Will he temt you? 		Thomas (1820)
285568 2004-12-03 06:52:00 LOL Nobody leave the room then.....LOL

beetle 		beetle (243)
285569 2004-12-03 07:15:00 Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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beetle 		beetle (243)
285570 2004-12-03 08:12:00 bump noone (22)
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