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Thread ID: 52699	2004-12-27 01:59:00	Aquariums, Fish & beetle????	beetle (243)	PC World Chat

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307978	2004-12-27 01:59:00	Oh boy not a good mix, But need some help or ideas or site to check out please . We got one for xmas, so instead of just killing comps im going into the fish killing business by the sounds of it . :lol: Any one got some helpful hints apart from the dont get one idea? i have one empty, clean and stoned . . . . . . :lol: It has a pump / filter and a heater? LOL next step fish killing , plant buying . . . . now who's idea was it to get one of these things???? :@@: Help please .	beetle (243)
307979	2004-12-27 02:23:00	i have one empty, clean and stoned . . . . . . :lol: Sounds like a recipie for disaster! :dogeye: All I know about fish is that they are a PITA to clean and look after . Not much help I know but :2cents:	Jester (13)
307980	2004-12-27 03:53:00	As you have a heater, I guess you would get tropical fish. The shop will be able to answer all of your questions and they will have books about it too. Tropical fish are susceptible to sudden temperature changes, so if they come home in a plastic bag full of water you float the bag in the tank for ...? minutes ( 30?, more?,) to enable the temperatures to equalise before letting them swim out of the bag. When you add water to the tank from time to time, watch the temperature of the added water, do it gradually and don't add too much at once. If you get snails, they multiply rapidly and make a bit of a mess with their waste. Don't let kids tap the glass, it upsets the fish as they feel every vibration. Start off with a few at first. The tank can only support a certain number and it is dependant on the amount of aeration the pump can provide. When the sides of the tank get greenish, I guess there are commercial products for cleaning nowadays, but a 'hundred years ago' we used to use a square piece of foam padding attached to a stick and rub it up and down the sides. It worked well. Definitely don't over feed with the fish food. It is so easy to over do it. The fish eat a little and the rest falls to the bottom and rots, causing all sorts of problems. Guppies will breed like flies and the males differ widely in form, that's fun to see. We bred Zebra fish and the large ones ate all the tiny young ones as soon as they were born. We solved that by suspending a mesh type shallow square basin near the surface and put the adult pregnant Zebra fish in that. When they gave birth, the young (really minute in size) dropped through the mesh holes and the adults couldn't follow. The young ones grew rapidly and the adults were then released from the meshed area. We got a disease called White Spot, small spots that show up on the fins and can eventually kill the fish. We read up on the causes and treatment (the internet was not 'invented' at that time and there were no tropical fish stores then, we bought privately), and treated them with some form of copper (I think) and cleared up the infection totally. Good fun, but a bit of work required. Start off with a few at first. I've never kept cold water goldfish so don't know whether they are any easier to have. Hope that helps a bit. ps. I don't think they eat lemons. :p	xxll (5902)
307981	2004-12-27 05:36:00	Oh boy not a good mix, But need some help or ideas or site to check out please . We got one for xmas, so instead of just killing comps im going into the fish killing business by the sounds of it . :lol: Any one got some helpful hints apart from the dont get one idea? i have one empty, clean and stoned . . . . . . :lol: It has a pump / filter and a heater? LOL next step fish killing , plant buying . . . . now who's idea was it to get one of these things???? :@@: Help please . Beetle, Trpoicals can be very time consuming, Pumps/Filters can also be noisy . You might want to try some coldies first . Allthough they can frequently be more entertainment that TV these days . D .	drb1 (4492)
307982	2004-12-27 05:56:00	Um well may not hear the noise of a pump / filter anyway..... and dont watch much telly....... and depends what they have at the shop i guess. and the tank came with all the gear, pump, heater, thermometre, and water thingys (cleaner / prep) and i just supply the stones, and fish..and weeds...... no hurry, and yeah coldies may be the way to go, even though i hate goldfish..... anything that involves excess work and im not good....... take computers for example.... :confused: :confused: :lol: :lol:	beetle (243)
307983	2004-12-27 06:15:00	Tropical fish can be fun and I would suggest that you talk to the pet shop owner(s) - but beware, they will try to sell you all kinds of difficult-to-keep fish. I would suggest to start up with tropicals, coz then I can help you if you have problems - don't know coldies that well. Start off with guppies and similar easy to care fish - stay away from angels and diet-specific fish at this stage (you can slowly work your way to them if you wish). HTH sarel	sarel (2490)
307984	2004-12-27 06:27:00	Ok, cool thanxs. Fish i was thinking of, if not goldfish, were neons....and some sort of sucking fish thingy..... i have seen a lot at the local pet shop but cannot remember what they called...... will go have a nosy tomorow hopefuly. got to get tank up and running first... they actually seem really good and nice at the pet shop, not pushy and quite knowledgable. about animals and fish that is. :D	beetle (243)
307985	2004-12-27 06:51:00	well if you get too many trpoical plant fish tank plant thingys then i guess you might have touble finsing the fish..... finding nemo ;)	Codex (3761)
307986	2004-12-27 07:17:00	I quite like chips with my fish	Baldy (26)
307987	2004-12-27 07:42:00	Um well may not hear the noise of a pump / filter anyway..... and dont watch much telly....... and ECT no hurry, and yeah coldies may be the way to go, even though i hate goldfish..... anything that involves excess work and im not good....... take computers for example.... :confused: :confused: :lol: :lol: Beetle, the range of coldies has expanded much beyond Goldies these days. Caution, Dont get turtles as they will make the tank unuseable for anything else afterwards. Something they emmit leeches into the glass and poisons the tank for ever after. D.	drb1 (4492)
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