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Thread ID: 52907	2005-01-02 13:54:00	Copyright Question	volkan (6752)	PC World Chat

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309898	2005-01-02 13:54:00	Hi, I need some help: I have started a small webdesign, and hosting company. For my webdesign, I have mainly been using Open Source CMs, but now I have 2 questions: 1), Im working from home, and im using 'downloaded' programs to edit pages, photos etc. As im starting a business, could I get in trouble? 2) I have just downloaded a number of Website Templates, from Kazza. When checking, these templates are about $50 each, and I have about 50 of these. If I edit the pages, am I allowd to use these, without the risk or getting in trouble? Please share your views. Cheers Volkan	volkan (6752)
309899	2005-01-02 14:50:00	Firstly, it is really not a good idea to have your e-mail address as your user name. Spam bots crawl web pages looking for people who have done just that. Perhaps a Mod can change it. Secondly, do you mean """""download"""" *wink wink* (illegal) or free programs that you have downloaded? If the latter, then that should be fine. If the former, then you may be in for large penalties, depending on the size of your 'small company'. Most people who use illegal software don't get caught - but if they do, they realise that piracy is an unforgiving industry. I'm talking 4 digit fines (much more for companies). Cheers George	george12 (7)
309900	2005-01-02 16:03:00	Hi, Yes i do mean 'download' wink wink! Well, what Im doing is not really a company! This is just a side job, so I can make some money. Im still studying. My webhosting may grow. But Im making websites, (at the moment) for Aeromoddelers. Sorry, I dont quite understand what you mean by 'latter' and 'former'! Do you think I can use the templetes, without people finding out? Oh, can a mod please change my username to 'volkan' I dunno what happened there!	volkan (6752)
309901	2005-01-02 18:43:00	Sorry, I dont quite understand what you mean by 'latter' and 'former'! Latter = legit free software, former = "wink wink" software Do you think I can use the templetes, without people finding out? Possibly but better check the code first - you'll see copyright in the meta tags if they've bothered to insert it. I'd recommend though if you ever want to make money out of site creation then you develop some skills first without having to pinch other people's designs.	Greg (193)
309902	2005-01-02 20:10:00	2) I have just downloaded a number of Website Templates, from Kazza. When checking, these templates are about $50 each, and I have about 50 of these. If I edit the pages, am I allowd to use these, without the risk or getting in trouble? If you are using something that usually would be paid for, but you haven't paid for it (without the permission of the owner/seller) then you cannot use it, modified or not. If you do it could be considered theft. Copyright etc. on the net is a vague area at the moment, but it's better to be safe than sorry. Either develop your own (not too hard to do) or purchase a few of the templates. Mike.	Mike (15)
309903	2005-01-02 20:34:00	This posting has a bad smell to it. The material being downloaded and pirated ..... Yes i do mean 'download' wink wink! Well, what Im doing is not really a company! This is just a side job, so I can make some money...... could well be mine. Or some other honest bastard. On your bike mate and wink-wink somewhere else.	Scouse (83)
309904	2005-01-02 20:46:00	Using pirated software for personal or business use is irrelevant, it is theft any way you look at it. There are very severe penalties for software theft, it's not worth the risk. Software packages should be treated just like a tradesman would treat his tools, buy them!!!	Sb0h (3744)
309905	2005-01-02 21:35:00	It's fairly simple to check the copyright, EULA and/or terms of use . Many webdesigners for eg, allow the use of their basic templates for free or for a nominal fee in the hopes that you'll move to bigger and better, paid, ones . But a tag for 50/ suggests that in this instance that is not the case . Look for some truly free ones . The use of Open Source is usually fine, but check the documentation before proceeding . I would view anything procured via Kazaa as highly suspicious . Use a search engine to find what you want, make sure it's legit .	Murray P (44)
309906	2005-01-02 21:42:00	Good advice Murray. :) Mike.	Mike (15)
309907	2005-01-02 22:41:00	Hi Thanks for that . I do understand what you mean . The problem with me is that, I can make what is in the templates, thats easy, I have been website building for years now . My problem is that, I cannot just think of a design that would look nice, (colours, layout etc . )!!!! What I dont understand is: Lets say I downloaded a template via Kazza or similar . All I can see in the simple HTML, and images, no meta tags, and no affiliaion to the original designer . If i do get in trouble, how will the creater prove that it is his work . I could just argue that it is mine!? (not saying that I will) As for software, MILLIONS of ppl use illigal software . Lots of ppl even have a illigal version on Windows or Liniux . So, what are the chances i get caught? Same issue with music and films . I only heard that ppl only target and people who share/upload loads of files? Am I wrong . Cheers Volkan (ps, great forums!)	volkan (6752)
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