| Forum Home | ||||
| PC World Chat | ||||
| Thread ID: 52953 | 2005-01-03 13:12:00 | Respecting other peoples choices | MMM (5660) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 310295 | 2005-01-04 01:45:00 | Thank you MMM for opening a can of worms and providing some entertainment on what might otherwise might have been a dull day. ;) People do take things rather seriously don't they? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 310296 | 2005-01-04 02:40:00 | Apathy, Murray, yes that describes my attitude quite well. I just dont have the energy or the inclination to try to change a zillion websites that have been made for IE to display, and that FF wont. Standards or no standards, if FF doesn't work on all sites, then most people who use IE (and know no other) would say FF is no good. I'm that way inclined too when FF wont open images on some of my favourite sites:dogeye: It's just a question of viewpoint, even of relativity, as to whether the site is no good, or to whether FF is no good. For those that have the energy and drive to contact sites and point out that they are not conforming to standards, well good luck, get on with it. (And eventually I'll enjoy the free ride :) ) |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 310297 | 2005-01-04 02:54:00 | Apathy, Murray, yes that describes my attitude quite well. I just dont have the energy or the inclination to try to change a zillion websites that have been made for IE to display, and that FF wont. Standards or no standards, if FF doesn't work on all sites, then most people who use IE (and know no other) would say FF is no good. I'm that way inclined too when FF wont open images on some of my favourite sites:dogeye: It's just a question of viewpoint, even of relativity, as to whether the site is no good, or to whether FF is no good. For those that have the energy and drive to contact sites and point out that they are not conforming to standards, well good luck, get on with it. (And eventually I'll enjoy the free ride :) ) What sort of web sites do you go to? I have not found any myself that do not display using FF Give an example of one so we can check it. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 310298 | 2005-01-04 03:21:00 | I also have seldom come across a site that doesn't display adequately in my browser... Netscape. Sure it happens, but I couldn't be bothered opening IE to see a site; I'll just go somewhere else | Greg (193) | ||
| 310299 | 2005-01-04 03:38:00 | Who cares what ruddy browser anyone uses. Its about as important as how long are the laces in your shoe and what brand of margarine you spread. Ho-Bluddy-Hum |
Baldy (26) | ||
| 310300 | 2005-01-04 03:49:00 | You're quite right there, Baldy. Both shoe laces and margarine are capable of causing people much grief. |
agent (30) | ||
| 310301 | 2005-01-04 04:06:00 | >>What sort of web sites do you go to? I have not found any myself that do not display using FF Give an example of one so we can check it. Well all I can say is that you havent lived :eek: I gave an example earlier, www.amazon.co.uk Here is how the page is diplayed using FF: sal.neoburn.net And here is how IE displays the same page: sal.neoburn.net It is images, areas that say click here or continue that tend to be missing, Ebay doesnt work properly for me. Many secure transaction pages dont work for example. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 310302 | 2005-01-04 04:21:00 | Well, quite a variety of comments and opinions on this thread . Reasonable discussions are always good, and each person is entitled to their opinion . But please do not go getting personal over it . I politely request that when promoting it as an option among many browsers available, that you forego that continual bleat regarding FF vs Internet Explorer . There is nothing wrong with suggesting Firefox (or any other browser) as an option for browsers and then giving the factual reasons why, but I think it was this comment above that has got so many people up and arms in this thread . However I agree, if someone has a problem with IE, then they shouldn't just be told to switch to an alternative browser . Advice given to fix their IE issue (often homepage hijacking etc) will sometimes include mentioning alternative browsers which will go towards preventing this happening again as they do not have that particular vunerability . But no one browser suits everyone's needs . You use what you prefer, but it is always good to be aware of the alternative choices . :) |
Jen (38) | ||
| 310303 | 2005-01-04 04:39:00 | World News January 04, 2005 Modest pioneer: Blake Ross . At 7, he was a computer game addict . At 17, he made the breakthrough that created Firefox . At 19, he is a student of computer science . Is this internet prodigy about to knock Microsoft off its pedestal? By David Adams A Miami teenager has created a free web browser that has been called Bill Gates's worst nightmare A MIAMI teenager is basking in the glory of helping to create a new internet browser at 17 that is now challenging the grip of Microsoft, which once held a virtual monopoly on web surfing . Computer analysts say that Blake Ross’s browser, Firefox, is a faster, more versatile program that also offers better protection from viruses and unwanted advertising . Not only that, the system is offered free over the internet and its codes and technology are all accessible as an “open source” programme . Firefox has already been downloaded by an estimated 15 million users since its launch in November, making it the world’s second-most-popular browser . Industry experts have dubbed the new software “Microsoft’s worst nightmare”, according to the technology magazine Business 2 . 0 . It hailed Mr Ross, now 19, as a software prodigy . He is also a talented pianist and “an unbelievable creative writer”, according to his mother, Ross . “Anything he does, he does well,” she said . As a seven-year-old Mr Ross became hooked on the popular computer game SimCity, designing and budgeting his own virtual city . By 10, he had created his own website . He later created his own computer applications and online text games . Soon he was reporting computer software flaws to manufacturers online . At 14 he was offered an internship at Netscape in Silicon Valley . His mother drove him out to California for three summers in succession . At Netscape, Mr Ross was introduced to the Mozilla Foundation, a not-for-profit organisation that promotes “choice and innovation on the web” . Mozilla was already trying to develop an open-source alternative browser to Microsoft’s Explorer, which many analysts felt had grown clumsy and outdated . Mr Ross and his friend David Hyatt began working on a small, user-focused browser . What began as an experimental side-project turned into Firefox . Mr Ross is quick to point out that he was one of a large team at Mozilla who worked on the project for five years . “It’s a big volunteer effort,” he said . In fact, the pair left before the work was completed, but Mozilla credits them with making the breakthrough . After he left to go to university, Mr Ross continued to be a “significant contributor”, according to Mozilla . The task involved throwing out all the old codes and rewriting the entire system so it would support all websites on the internet . While Firefox still has a long way to go to rival Microsoft, it seems to be catching on . Firefox has received dazzling reviews from industry analysts . Recently some 10,000 Firefox fans raised $250,000 (£131,000) to take out a two-page advertisement in The New York Times . It is not just in dividual users who are taking interest . In December, the information technology department at Pennsylvania State University sent a note to college deans recommending that the entire 100,000-strong staff, faculty and student body switch to Firefox . Mr Ross, now a student at Stanford University studying computer science, is taking it all in his stride . As a volunteer on an open-source product, there was no financial reward . Microsoft professes to be unfazed . Windows executive Gary Schare said: “We’re seeing the natural ebb and flow of a competitive marketplace with new products being introduced . It’s not surprising to see curious early adopters checking them out . ” Not content with making a huge dent in Microsoft’s browser share, Mozilla, the foundation behind Firefox, is also going after Microsoft’s Outlook and other e-mail packages . Called Thunderbird 1 . 0, the package works on Windows, Macintosh and Linux and has been praised by the industry and press for finally offering a challenge to Microsoft’s dominance in the e-mail arena . The software provides a number of features which other packages are struggling to offer . Key features include e-mail junk filters that analyse and sort incoming mail and greater security elements . |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 310304 | 2005-01-04 05:22:00 | I just read that in The Times, Tom - where'd you source it from? | agent (30) | ||
| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | |||||