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| Thread ID: 52991 | 2005-01-04 15:44:00 | Should overseas trader be able to list items on sale at trademe? | Ninjabear (2948) | PC World Chat |
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| 310662 | 2006-01-31 07:50:00 | Expressions like SCAMME (and TELESCUM) are a poor substitute for cogently reasoned argument. If that's the best people can do to express themselves, they'd be better off becoming preachers, where all their thoughts and words are pre-scripted; or falling under a train or something. The internet is a jungle, but it was made that way by its users, so the users are to blame, not those who try to provide a service. Trademe is successful enough to prove that it is bigger than the scamsters and the moaners & wingers. Its success is driven by people who are aware of the risks but are savvy enough to take adequate precautions. People have to be pretty damned gullible (or greedy) to fall for most of the scams anyway, if it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't. Cheers Billy 8-{) :2cents: you just made what had ambitions of being an intelligent post a laughing stock by even hinting that the likes of preachers should fall under a train and that reading pre scripted text is all they do.....imbecile |
cognoscenti06 (6780) | ||
| 310663 | 2006-01-31 08:18:00 | Oh dear, cognoscenti06 (an oxymoron of a handle if ever I heard one, judging by your posts), you haven't got any real support here so why don't you just go and play on ebay.uk? Personally, before buying I look to see if the seller is in NZ or overseas. If they are overseas, I give them the instant flick. I'm not interested in putting money into some coloniser's account with little hope of redress when they stuff me over. And I am also not interested in providing profits to an overseas trader if I can support local enterprise. Secondly, I check with the seller to see if they have the goods in their hot little hands in Godzone, not some overseas island. If they don't, that is another reason to shy off. There are plenty of other reputable traders who live here, and who I can do something about if they default or provide crap goods. |
John H (8) | ||
| 310664 | 2006-01-31 08:27:00 | you just made what had ambitions of being an intelligent post a laughing stock by even hinting that the likes of preachers should fall under a train and that reading pre scripted text is all they do.....imbecileHey, you are new to this forum and it has some rules (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz), one of which says if you can't keep it nice then don't post it. | Jen (38) | ||
| 310665 | 2006-01-31 09:14:00 | if it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't. I think you got that a bit wrong. Did you mean "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is"? |
Greven (91) | ||
| 310666 | 2006-01-31 09:53:00 | I think you got that a bit wrong. Did you mean "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is"? You know I've never read it that way Greven, but that is certainly one way of interpreting that saying. What I actually meant was: "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is (too good to be true) but it can also be read to mean: "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is (true)" My erudite friend probably missed that nuance, just as he/she completely missed that I was suggesting preaching as a career option based on general ability to accept doctrine without question. Falling under a train was simply an alternative option for those who didn't feel that preaching was their true vocation. There are enough proselytizers on the planet already without adding more. Cheers Billy 8-{) :D |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 310667 | 2006-01-31 14:03:00 | To be honest If the local seller was cheaper than an overseas seller than I would most certainly spend my money on a local seller but because the price difference is so great I am likely to spend on an overseas seller than a local seller. I would save a wooping $200-$300 on mobile phones. I don't mind overseas seller at all as long as they are genuine and are happy to wait for so much delivery date as long as its within a period of 10 days or under. I choose money over time |
Ninjabear (2948) | ||
| 310668 | 2006-02-01 01:00:00 | snip . . . I choose money over time Well, you have identified one of the differences between us! I am glad we cleared that up at least . Actually, you misunderstood me ninjabear - my comments did not relate to time as an issue . I am 60, and I have learnt over the years how to handle delayed gratification . An important reason for buying locally is contract enforcement . When buying from anyone (be it on TradeMe or anywhere) I want to ensure that I can enforce the contract if there is a default or the goods are faulty . I can't send the cuzzie bros around to a trader in Beijing or London, and I doubt the Disputes Tribunal stretches its jurisdiction that far . I do buy overseas from firms like Amazon, but it is easy to find out whether those firms are bona fide and will put things right if something goes wrong . In the case of someone overseas who calls themselves "cognoscenti06" for example, I know nothing about them and can't find out . Their ratings by other traders are only as good as their last trade . I have given high ratings to a seller who did well as far as I was concerned . Subsequently (after getting great overall ratings) she defaulted on a number of sales, and the comments from her buyers suggest she may have built up a reputation that she could later use to defraud people . In that case I acknowledge she was a NZ seller, not an overseas one, but with a local you have an opportunity to enforce the contract . I rate reliability of the contract over both time and money . |
John H (8) | ||
| 310669 | 2006-02-01 12:58:00 | I wouldn't pick out a random trader who's overseas and trade with him.I would read his feedback.Normally if a person has received feedback about warranty issues I would just skip to the next seller I don't rush into purchasing things off an international trader. There are some international traders online at trademe who says they are based in new zealand.Had wonderful experience trading with them but had one or two which I weren't happy with because it was taking too long for me to receive the product.I put a neutral feedback and moved on to another trader and if i find that the trader is good i would definitely trade with him again in the future I have purchased alot of things at ebay. There are things which i wouldn't recommend buying .Since my father is in hong kong i can ask him to buy it for me and pay it back later. I am a new zealand resident and have a new zealand passport .Even though i should be buying things from new zealand I don't feel it's wrong to buy from overseas.It's a free market.It's cheaper over there and my father and I know which shops are safe to buy and which shops are not.We have experience.This is how I feel.There's no reason for me to spend my money in NZ because the stuff is dearer over here.Don't we all want things to be cheap? If i were rich one day then i may spend my money here.Money is not limited.Money is hard to find these days. I'm not saying I don't spend my money here but in terms of quantity of purchasing throughout the year.I am likely to spend my money overseas. |
Ninjabear (2948) | ||
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