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Thread ID: 52907	2005-01-02 13:54:00	Copyright Question	volkan (6752)	PC World Chat

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309908	2005-01-02 22:54:00	First off,Let me state that i don't care in the slightest how your source your programs or materials, But you could at the least not try and justify theft.	Metla (12)
309909	2005-01-02 22:57:00	As for software, MILLIONS of ppl use illigal software. Lots of ppl even have a illigal version on Windows or Liniux. So, what are the chances i get caught? Same issue with music and films. I only heard that ppl only target and people who share/upload loads of files? Am I wrong. It's still illegal!??!?! Plenty of people bash old ladies in their homes and don't get caught... that doesn't mean its okay to do it does it? No it doesn't. The concept is still the same - it's still illegal. A problem some wannabe web-designers have is that they sit down and try to do the page from scratch without thinking about design first. My suggestion is that you sit down with some paper and coloured pencils (or similar) and draw up a design, and once you've got one you like then put it into html. Mike.	Mike (15)
309910	2005-01-02 23:06:00	The problem with me is that, I can make what is in the templates, thats easy, I have been website building for years now. My problem is that, I cannot just think of a design that would look nice, (colours, layout etc.)!!!! Then why don't you just create your own template from viewing a page that you like without actually using the page's code? You can then add your own customisation (colours, graphics, etc) to make it "yours". Why do you have to use another person's code that they probably spent a lot of time on? As for software, MILLIONS of ppl use illigal software. Lots of ppl even have a illigal version on Windows or Liniux. So, what are the chances i get caught? Same issue with music and films. I only heard that ppl only target and people who share/upload loads of files? Am I wrong. It is unlikely you will get caught but there are moral obligations. Two (or two million) wrongs don't make a right. I am sure you wouldn't like it if your hard work and talent was pilfered without your permission or reward if you had not made your work available for free. There is nothing wrong with "borrowing" other people's ideas as long as you put your own time into creating the code and customise it so that the final result isn't an exact replica of someone else's site.	FoxyMX (5)
309911	2005-01-02 23:17:00	why do you NEED illegal software ??? really....there is nothing that can't be done with legally free software. are people so lazy they have to rip off a known product instead of useing a free version??	tweak'e (69)
309912	2005-01-02 23:17:00	Not get caught? We have a tacit admission of the practice, we have a name and address for the person making the admission, all on a public website. Please note that the poster has gone to some trouble on their own webpages to point out that all content is copyright, but does not seem to accept that the same rules apply for other content including that received from places such as Kazaa .... I think some people are already counting the reward money ...	godfather (25)
309913	2005-01-02 23:40:00	Not sure how helpful this will be to you, but I found this (www.templetons.com) faq about copyrights.	Zygar (29)
309914	2005-01-02 23:51:00	Hi, First of all, I will NOT use the templates, my second post was just for curiosity. It was something that I have been wondering about for ages, but never found the correct forum to ask in. These templates where downloaded months ago, I just never used them as I had no idea about copyright issues. Then why don't you just create your own template from viewing a page that you like without actually using the page's code? You can then add your own customisation (colours, graphics, etc) to make it "yours". Why do you have to use another person's code that they probably spent a lot of time on? Good idea, but could i get in trouble for copying ideas? Mike, thanks for the advice, as Im not a pro webdesigner, I never acctually thought about using a pencil and paper! lol. Thanks for your views.	volkan (6752)
309915	2005-01-03 00:03:00	Good idea, but could i get in trouble for copying ideas? It is a possibility, especially if the code is very similar. But I think if you use completely your own code and styles etc. you might be safe (but I think it'd be better, and safer, to try designing your own first). Mike, thanks for the advice, as Im not a pro webdesigner, I never acctually thought about using a pencil and paper! lol. No problem - I was there myself a few years ago when I was trying to teach myself, but had (still have) absolutely no design sense. I actually got my wife to draw up a few (she's a bit more arty than myself), and then I made them slightly less arty ;) then put them into html. I haven't done any recently though - it was just a hobby back then. Mike.	Mike (15)
309916	2005-01-03 00:09:00	Hi, First of all, I will NOT use the templates, my second post was just for curiosity. It was something that I have been wondering about for ages, but never found the correct forum to ask in. These templates where downloaded months ago, I just never used them as I had no idea about copyright issues. That is good. At least you have made that quite clear now. Good idea, but could i get in trouble for copying ideas? Not for copying ideas and then personalising the pages so they are not blatant copies, no, I very much doubt it. Especially if you create the pages from scratch with your own code. If you have a look around the web there are heaps of similar-looking sites created by different designers. I am sure lots of them create pages based on what they like the look of but then add their own ideas and customisations.	FoxyMX (5)
309917	2005-01-03 01:42:00	Buying all the software you need to start making webpages can add up pretty quickly into $3000+, Photoshop, StudioMX, OS, etc. If he's only making them part time and for no real profit he would probably end up with a large deficit for a long time.	E|im (87)
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