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Thread ID: 53443	2005-01-17 22:48:00	No mask I say.Burqa	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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315226	2005-01-19 00:38:00	The mass movement of peoples around the world is happening everywhere due to population pressures. There is no way to stop it or to reverse the tide. It is something I think that has to be accepted as inevitable. Yes the world's growing population is putting a strain on resources & it's up to individual governments & the global community to control it. But this doesn't mean every other country has to accept the overspill. It's pretty simple from where I sit. No, I'm sorry you can't come & live here. Tha last thing we want here is exactly what England has on it's plate at the moment, evergrowing communities of slums & ending up just as overcrowded & poor as the countries some immigrants & refugees are coming here to get away from. Not to mention the ever growing crime rate as a result.	bartsdadhomer (80)
315227	2005-01-19 06:05:00	Why is it that so many immigrants to this country demand the right to continue the customs of their own country. If I had my way they would do things our way. Otherwise they would be out of the country so fast their feet wouldn't even touch the ground. Jack Too right. I had to get used to cold beer since moving from the UK and haven't looked back since! One thing I do insist on though is calling Football "Football" and not "Soccer". As much as I think we need to tolerate other people's differences, religions and whatever in order to get along in the world, I don't agree that that should mean we make sacrifices for our own way of living. I'm sick and tired of immigrants coming over here and inflicting their beliefs on our society. They certainly wouldn't be bending over backwards for us and making allowances if we were in their country. I find Muslims, in general, particularly arrogant in this regard.	manicminer (4219)
315228	2005-01-19 09:07:00	Islam is a militaristic religion with no respect for human rights - stoning minor criminals to death, etc. - and its practice should not be tolerated in this country. All adherents should be dispatched to whatever Muslim country will have them, and no others allowed in. Like Catholics they have large numbers of children with the object of taking over the world, and should therefore not be encouraged. Our forefathers came here with various strange Christian beliefs which are clearly rubbish and we have struggled for years to rid ourselves of this problem (and not yet succeeded). In fact, any immigrant should abide by NZ laws and customs or else go back home.	rodb (1561)
315229	2005-01-19 09:20:00	Islam is a militaristic religion with no respect for human rights - stoning minor criminals to death, etc. - and its practice should not be tolerated in this country. All adherents should be dispatched to whatever Muslim country will have them, and no others allowed in. Like Catholics they have large numbers of children with the object of taking over the world, and should therefore not be encouraged. Our forefathers came here with various strange Christian beliefs which are clearly rubbish and we have struggled for years to rid ourselves of this problem (and not yet succeeded). In fact, any immigrant should abide by NZ laws and customs or else go back home. Very profound Bob,thank you for that.	Cicero (40)
315230	2005-01-19 09:28:00	I mostly agree with you Rodb. Though I can see such bold statements encouraging the wrath of a few pc individuals. One could start a whole new topic just on immigration alone. I just hope New Zealand doesn't go down the road of Britain and succomb to mass immigration. With a small population here, it wouldn't take much for ethnic minority to suddenly become a majority and then, before you know it, we'll suddenly become an overpopulated extension of Asia (and I don't think Asians living here now would particularly want that). One has to wonder why westernized countries such as New Zealand and Australia are such popular destinations for migrants from these countries. We have an attractive lifestyle and a beautiful country in which to live. The only way we can keep it this way is by keeping the population to a sustainable minimum.	manicminer (4219)
315231	2005-01-19 09:54:00	But we will Keep getting the immigration patterns we have, as they are more likely to vote Labour ;)	MartynC (5610)
315232	2005-01-19 18:51:00	But we will Keep getting the immigration patterns we have, as they are more likely to vote Labour ;) Ahem, unable to keep out of this :) It was National under Jim Bolger that opened the gates wide ;) Before all us Anglo-Saxons gets hot under the collar, about what is happening to their country, just consider the Maori perspective of white colonial invasion, and how that did, and does affect their perspective.	Terry Porritt (14)
315233	2005-01-19 19:15:00	Also remember, it was the New Right that introduced entreprenuership conitions of entry whereby people could buy their way into the country. It was also the New Right atmosphere that spawned the "Immigration Consultant" industry exemplified by ex-National MP Aussie Malcom. All these types argued for greater immigration, ostensibly to improve our economy, but really to line their pockets. Going back again to the controlled 1970s when I arrived here, there were strict rules about how much land could be bought. Can't remember the details, but it was something like 2 or 5 acres. Any more , eg a farm, and there were criteria that had to be met. Sorry cant give chapter and verse on this. The New Right threw that all away, so anyone can now come and buy up New Zealand. Just think if Bill Gates decided he would like to add New Zealand to his real estate :eek:	Terry Porritt (14)
315234	2005-01-19 19:30:00	Islam is a militaristic religion with no respect for human rights - stoning minor criminals to death, etc. - and its practice should not be tolerated in this country. All adherents should be dispatched to whatever Muslim country will have them, and no others allowed in. Like Catholics they have large numbers of children with the object of taking over the world, and should therefore not be encouraged. Our forefathers came here with various strange Christian beliefs which are clearly rubbish and we have struggled for years to rid ourselves of this problem (and not yet succeeded). In fact, any immigrant should abide by NZ laws and customs or else go back home. While we must respect other people's beliefs, those people also must respect human rights and the laws of this nation. These people can dress how they want, pray however they want, eat what they want, so long as their practices do not infringe NZ's laws. In saying that, all NZers need to abide by the laws of this country, or face the penalties, not just immigrants. Proportionally, a huge amount of crime is still commited by "traditionals" NZers, both Maori and Pakeha. NZ needs immigration to grow - we have a huge shortage of skilled labour, there are still huge numbers of NZers going overseas, and in order for the country to sustain it's economic status on the world stage, we need the immigration from all around the world.	somebody (208)
315235	2005-01-19 19:58:00	Does it all boil down to prejudice? Today’s meaning of prejudice comes close to this. Without examining a person on his or her own merit, we have already adopted a negative attitude that implies a judgment. A prejudice is a mixture of beliefs and feelings that predisposes people to respond negatively to members of a particular group. It leads one to select certain facts for emphasis,blinding one to other facts.It causes one to look on all members of a group as if they were all alike. Worth a thought,do you think?	Cicero (40)
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