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Thread ID: 53359 2005-01-15 05:49:00 Kiwi Drivers... manicminer (4219) PC World Chat
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314295 2005-01-15 08:37:00 It was when I first went for my licence about 12 years ago.

I was originally taught when going straight ahead to signal right when entering the roundabout and signal left when exiting.

Then I am afraid you were taught incorrectly. :groan:

The NZ rules regarding roundabouts were and are as you state the current rules. The problem is that the right hand signal is redundant if the island has been constructed properly, which few are. They have been built as afterthoughts.

I have in front of me a 1985 Road Code, there is no mention of roundabouts at all. That shows how new they are generally speaking except for the odd one here and there that were around say 25 years ago.

Anyway so as not to sound grumpy here is a tune for the occasion:

www.redhotjazz.com 		Terry Porritt (14)
314296 2005-01-15 08:37:00 NZ drivers are bad, but at least they're not crazy. You should see what they're like in Europe, eg Greece, Italy and some of the Eastern European countries. Diabolic would be putting it politely Greg (193)
314297 2005-01-15 08:39:00 I would like to see a system where a cop can ask you to do a "scratch and match" test right there on the side of the road, no time to read up the book, no time to memorise answers . if you get less than 75% its loss of licence right there on the side of the road .

Next thing i would like to see is that a loss of licence means something . as in you have no licence and have to re-sit it all from the start and at full cost .

If you get loss of licence three times then thats it, thats the end, start walking, you never get another licence . EVER .

And the above will only have an effect if there more than a $500 fine for driving with out a licence . a fine never gets paid . . . . .
driving with out a licence is 6 months behind bars, no getting out early for being a good boy . second offence gets twice as long .



asking for you thought on this??

BTW I dont drive, due to being partly blind :-) 		robsonde (120)
314298 2005-01-15 08:51:00 New zealanders will continue to unnessecarily die on roads for 3 simple reasons

1 Goverments are still continuing to treat roading as a revenue center .

2 Goverments continue to rob petroll tax for overseas trips, higher personall allowances, and higher pension .

3 New Zealand Nationalls, with out overseas experience in particular, will NOT under any circumstances, KEEP LEFT and GET OUT OF THE WAY OF FASTER TRAFFICK .

If the vehicle is faster than you and speeding, SO WHAT, get out of the way, and let the faster vehicle go .

This is why we have so may traffic jam's, and why the majority of head on collisions in particular, occour .

Frustrating the other guy, to so many, is fun, its allmost a nationall sport, its also allmost MURDER .

D . 		drb1 (4492)
314299 2005-01-15 08:59:00 The vast majority of accidents involve "kiwi" drivers, but they aren't reported as much because they involve "normal" NZers and don't make good news stories.But that's to be expected because we are the majority of the population - basic statistics is going to tell you that. Not really a valid argument.

I'd imagine in Fiji the majority of accidents are caused by Fijians, in India by Indians, in Ireland by the Irish, and in America by terrorists.

If you took the asian population, and the number of accidents they are reponsible for, and the kiwi population and the number of accidents they are responsible for and worked out on average per head how many accidents there were, that the number would be higher, probably significantly so.

Having been a university student in a hostel situation, it certainly wasn't often a european student was brought home by the police after wrecking their car - unfortunately couldn't say the same for the others. 		ninja (1671)
314300 2005-01-15 09:02:00 driving with out a licence is 6 months behind bars, no getting out early for being a good boy. second offence gets twice as long.

Bit harsh IMO, the rest is good I think.

But what, are you the head of traffic laws or something? Coz if not, you're going to have a hard time changing a thing! 		george12 (7)
314301 2005-01-15 09:02:00 But that's to be expected because we are the majority of the population - basic statistics is going to tell you that. Not really a valid argument.

I'd imagine in Fiji the majority of accidents are caused by Fijians, in India by Indians, in Ireland by the Irish, and in America by terrorists.

If you took the asian population, and the number of accidents they are reponsible for, and the kiwi population and the number of accidents they are responsible for and worked out on average per head how many accidents there were, that the number would be higher, probably significantly so.

Having been a university student in a hostel situation, it certainly wasn't often a european student was brought home by the police after wrecking their car - unfortunately couldn't say the same for the others.
Well if you don't bring up any statistics of asian drivers in NZ your arguement has no relevence. 		Raikyn (6293)
314302 2005-01-15 09:02:00 I would like to see a system where a cop can ask you to do a "scratch and match" test right there on the side of the road, no time to read up the book, no time to memorise answers . if you get less than 75% its loss of licence right there on the side of the road .

Next thing i would like to see is that a loss of licence means something . as in you have no licence and have to re-sit it all from the start and at full cost .

If you get loss of licence three times then thats it, thats the end, start walking, you never get another licence . EVER .

And the above will only have an effect if there more than a $500 fine for driving with out a licence . a fine never gets paid . . . . .
driving with out a licence is 6 months behind bars, no getting out early for being a good boy . second offence gets twice as long .



asking for you thought on this??

BTW I dont drive, due to being partly blind :-)
A bit draconian . I can't see any govt implementing such a system (too much revenue to lose!)
Just having knowledge of the "road code" (or knowledge of how to pass the test) is no guarantee of being a good driver . There are many aspects of road craft that can't be taught simply by reading a book . Alot I believe is down to attitude and "common sense" (which perhaps isn't so common after all) . Knowing the road code is one thing, but practicing it is another . 		manicminer (4219)
314303 2005-01-15 09:11:00 I don't see why they just don't get everyone to resist their licence every ten years, written and practical. At least then mostly everyone would know the rules. Raikyn (6293)
314304 2005-01-15 09:11:00 Bit harsh IMO, the rest is good I think.

But what, are you the head of traffic laws or something? Coz if not, you're going to have a hard time changing a thing!
I think he meant driving without having a licence i.e. never having sat for it Rather than driving without the little Green or Orange piece of cardboard. 		ninja (1671)
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