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Thread ID: 53285	2005-01-13 02:49:00	Musical Quiz	Terry Porritt (14)	PC World Chat

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313531	2005-01-13 07:55:00	It was from here: www.iclassics.com I had to use IE to get the sound clips to work. FireFox wouldnt do it. I see you can get complete piece if you have broadband,which I don't,too far from exchange it would seem.	Cicero (40)
313532	2005-01-13 08:15:00	I see you can get complete piece if you have broadband,which I don't,too far from exchange it would seem . I think they are all only 1 minute clips . Those times are the track running times on the CD . I tend to only go for the Wagnerian highlights, I dont go much on the interminable stuff in between:yuck: I like grand opera for the great performers . It isnt 'grand' if performed by your local amateur enthusiasts, though they may well be enjoying themselves . I mean who could compare with Maria Callas, not technically the best, but the emotion and passion is everything, and whether she fluffed a note or two is neither here nor there . Imagine Kiri trying to play a Callas role, like comparing ice with steam . Same with the 1920s music, there was a passion there, a characteristic of the times which faded as the 30s wore on, until we reached the souless era of 'Cool' and bebop . It is the individual players, Beiderbecke, Armstrong Morton, Mole, not necessarily the composer of the tune that give the thrill, and the ensemble, the band as a whole . Each band is generally recognisable from the way it plays, whereas classical music orchestras don't (to my untrained ears) , they tend to play what the composer wrote with little individual interpretation . Ok a statement open to dispute, no doubt But then we each have our own ideas on music, and what we like and dislike .	Terry Porritt (14)
313533	2005-01-13 08:33:00	Each band is generally recognisable from the way it plays, whereas classical music orchestras don't (to my untrained ears) , they tend to play what the composer wrote with little individual interpretation . Ok a statement open to dispute, no doubt Not so, Terry and this is what "classical music" is all about . Orchestras, pianists, quartets, etc etc take the printed stuff and bring it to life . Enthusiasts will have several versions of a symphony or quartet by various groups, because they all yield a different result . To we classic folk, most bands sound alike ( or do they . . . . ) Stand by for a blast from Cicero . . Cheers Tony	TonyF (246)
313534	2005-01-13 08:34:00	I think they are all only 1 minute clips . Those times are the track running times on the CD . I tend to only go for the Wagnerian highlights, I dont go much on the interminable stuff in between:yuck: I like grand opera for the great performers . It isnt 'grand' if performed by your local amateur enthusiasts, though they may well be enjoying themselves . I mean who could compare with Maria Callas, not technically the best, but the emotion and passion is everything, and whether she fluffed a note or two is neither here nor there . Imagine Kiri trying to play a Callas role, like comparing ice with steam . Same with the 1920s music, there was a passion there, a characteristic of the times which faded as the 30s wore on, until we reached the souless era of 'Cool' and bebop . It is the individual players, Beiderbecke, Armstrong Morton, Mole, not necessarily the composer of the tune that give the thrill, and the ensemble, the band as a whole . Each band is generally recognisable from the way it plays, whereas classical music orchestras don't (to my untrained ears) , they tend to play what the composer wrote with little individual interpretation . Ok a statement open to dispute, no doubt But then we each have our own ideas on music, and what we like and dislike . The fact is I don't have a passion for music,I love it but no passion,I envy those who have a passion of any kind . I have a mate whose passion is the NZ brown teal,30 years and he is as keen as ever . Do you remember Ivy Benson,she was at Butlins when I was there in the 50's .	Cicero (40)
313535	2005-01-13 08:43:00	Not so, Terry and this is what "classical music" is all about . Orchestras, pianists, quartets, etc etc take the printed stuff and bring it to life . Enthusiasts will have several versions of a symphony or quartet by various groups, because they all yield a different result . To we classic folk, most bands sound alike ( or do they . . . . ) Stand by for a blast from Cicero . . Cheers Tony Don't think I am as pure as you Tony,I tend to like sweet melodious music,hence Fauré Debussy etc .	Cicero (40)
313536	2005-01-13 09:08:00	Not so, Terry and this is what "classical music" is all about . Orchestras, pianists, quartets, etc etc take the printed stuff and bring it to life . Enthusiasts will have several versions of a symphony or quartet by various groups, because they all yield a different result . To we classic folk, most bands sound alike ( or do they . . . . ) Stand by for a blast from Cicero . . Cheers Tony Of course you are right Tony, when I stop to think about it . I think next HTOTM at the end of January, we'll look at George Gershwin, and "symphonic jazz" as played by Paul Whiteman . The original 1924 Whiteman acoustic recording of Rhapsody in Blue and their later 1928 version both with Gershwin himself on piano, I still regard as among the best ever recorded . This maybe bridges the divide between 'classical' orhestral music and danceband/jazz, well sort of .	Terry Porritt (14)
313537	2005-01-13 09:25:00	But how about Benny Goodman in Carnegie Hall 1938.. marvellous ..	TonyF (246)
313538	2005-01-13 09:25:00	A spot of Gershwin would be nice TP. Ever heard Janis Joplin's rendition of Summertime? hmm, on second thoughts, It'd probably curl your toes and curdle your guts. The Hot & Anxious tune is cool, although the wife prefers the later itteration "you can dance to it", she would anyway being a Miller fan. Elephant ears is a hoot, the singings not too shaby either, I wouldn't know too much about what makes a well rendered version though, not being a classical fan. All the same I find that I can appreciate more classical now than I could. As long as it isn't rap or bubble gum music, I guess it's good.	Murray P (44)
313539	2005-01-13 09:30:00	Don't think I am as pure as you Tony,I tend to like sweet melodious music,hence Fauré Debussy etc. Fair enough. I am Bach to Mahler, and the Shostakovich quartets ( but not the symphonies..) More Germanic than French, I guess. Long live Concert FM !! Tony	TonyF (246)
313540	2005-01-14 01:25:00	Murray P. They have just played Janis Joplin's Summertime on National Radio but the version with Jimmy Hendrix which is a bit different from the version I have which is with her own band Big Brother and the Holding Company.	Dally (6292)
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