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| Thread ID: 53280 | 2005-01-13 00:47:00 | Are you happy with the Telecom situation? | hamstar (4) | PC World Chat |
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| 313431 | 2005-01-13 04:14:00 | I don't see that what government was in power at the time has anything to do with this. That's the same as saying if it was a nationalist who sold me a car I should give his socialist son $20000 years later. The situation now and 17 years ago are completely different. Basically you are suggesting that a labour government wouldn't have made the same mistake, but cause it never happened we can never really know. |
karter16 (6838) | ||
| 313432 | 2005-01-13 05:21:00 | Basically you (Agent) are suggesting that a labour government wouldn't have made the same mistake, but cause it never happened we can never really know. Labour WAS in power when Telecom was privatised in 1990. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 313433 | 2005-01-13 05:30:00 | Basically another good reason why they should go out the door. | ~sy~ (95) | ||
| 313434 | 2005-01-13 05:42:00 | well this certainly started a bit negative, anyway, i do think that the xtra flat rate is a tad overpriced and that other companies should own the phone lines | Prescott (11) | ||
| 313435 | 2005-01-13 06:24:00 | Basically another good reason why they should go out the door. Some of you are showing incredibly bad logic. Okay, I was wrong, it was a Labour government that privatised the PSTN, but I do believe it was a National government that privatised the postal system, and National is now suggesting we privatise the state broadcaster. It might pay to note that the policies of Roger Douglas were not popular with traditional Labour supporters, and that in the 1990 elections (won by National), Ruth Richardson (Douglas' successor) continued his policies. National governments traditionally seem to go for privatisation. And yes, karter, it does have significance - an idiot of a politician made bad choices which we are now paying the price for. I don't know what on earth you guys are hounding on about the government demanding money from Telecom (I haven't heard of any such thing), but New Zealand severly lags behind most other developed countries with our PSTN. Most other countries have opted to "unbundle the local loop", but we are still stuck in the stone age. |
agent (30) | ||
| 313436 | 2005-01-13 07:06:00 | I would not say the the current system is bad/wrong. it would be nice if the system was that any company could own as many or as few lines as they wanted and teay then provide the lines to the service providers who then offer services to the end users. companys may own lines or offer servieces to end users but not both. a system a bit like the current way of the power system..... and as for the threads about "I hate telecom".... do we realy need a new telecom thread every 2 weeks?? if we realy DO need a new telecom thread every two weeks could the Admin set up a Cron job to do this automaticly?? it would say people so much time :-) or is starting a telecom thread a thing for people with too much free time.......... |
robsonde (120) | ||
| 313437 | 2005-01-13 07:26:00 | I don't see that what government was in power at the time has anything to do with this. That's the same as saying if it was a nationalist who sold me a car I should give his socialist son $20000 years later. The situation now and 17 years ago are completely different. Basically you are suggesting that a labour government wouldn't have made the same mistake, but cause it never happened we can never really know. What i am saying is that if you buy something with conditions attached, you pay a lessor price. To use your example, if you buy the vehice on condition it could not be used as a trade, ie make money, & then you run a taxi or courier in it, then you should have paid more in the first place. Telecom was bought Cheap for a reason, if the buyers of Telecom wanted no conditions, it would have been sold for Billions more. |
MartynC (5610) | ||
| 313438 | 2005-01-13 07:46:00 | but New Zealand severly lags behind most other developed countries with our PSTN. Most other countries have opted to "unbundle the local loop", but we are still stuck in the stone age. Does unbundling the loop really do that much for the end users or just give them a greater choice of ex-used carsalesmen to deal with? Apart from some city areas, the biggest problem here is the small number of people to pay for distributing services in a country the size of Britain stuck in the south Pacific. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 313439 | 2005-01-13 07:55:00 | but I do believe it was a National government that privatised the postal system, uh, agent, NZ Post is still owned by the Government :) If Telecom unbundled the local loop you could say goodbye to free local calls. And, yes, Telecom would make that a condition of unbundling. Telecom might apparently be charging us a fortune, but you can make as many local calls as you like and they won't cost you anything. I would much rather this than cheaper phone lines but having to pay for every call. My :2cents: Mike. |
Mike (15) | ||
| 313440 | 2005-01-13 08:06:00 | I voted I love telecom because the quartely dividend cheque I receive from them more than pays for my phone and internet expenses. And the shares I bought are worth more than 6 times what I paid for them. | tutaenui (1724) | ||
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