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Thread ID: 53443	2005-01-17 22:48:00	No mask I say.Burqa	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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315206	2005-01-17 22:48:00	Judge Lindsay Moore's decision not to allow the defendant in an insurance fraud case watch two unmasked Muslim women give evidence is not good enough, ACT Justice spokesman Stephen Franks said today. "It doesn't satisfy the fundamental principle that every accused should have the right to face their accuser. "Judge Moore's ruling allows only the legal establishment to see the witnesses. "This bizarre solicitude to Muslim sensitivities means that the defendant is prohibited from even looking his own sister in the eye. "I hope this aspect is appealed. If not, the Government should change the law," Mr Franks said.	Cicero (40)
315207	2005-01-17 23:03:00	I can't believe they [Muslims] trust the lawyers seeing them and not the defendant :D	Edward (31)
315208	2005-01-18 01:31:00	Why is it that so many immigrants to this country demand the right to continue the customs of their own country. If I had my way they would do things our way. Otherwise they would be out of the country so fast their feet wouldn't even touch the ground. Jack	JJJJJ (528)
315209	2005-01-18 01:54:00	This is really starting to P*** me off The vast sums of OUR taxpayers money (not theirs, cause most haven't got any) spent on this sort of PC rubbish. We as a nation let all sorts of immigrants come & live here for all sorts of reasons I don't think too many Kiwis are against taking in refugees & their families, It's part of our obligation as a nation to help others less fortunate than ourselves as long as it's within our means to do so What really gets up my nose is the extaodinary lengths we go to to ensure we don't offend their sensibilities. We feed, clothe & house them. We supply jobs for those who want to work (and it seems once they have been here for a while, many of them soon learn they don't have to work, thanks to our over indulgent welfare system) We change our School rules to accomodate them I think it's about time refugees & other immigrants had to sign a waiver that they will agree to adapt to NZ ways, customs & laws or out you go Back to wherever it was you came If our ways are too difficult to abide by, go back home if it was so great. It was more than likely religious differences that forced them out of their own country in the first place & it seems to me when they arrive here they are almost forcing their beliefs upon our society & crying foul when denied their so called "rights" At the rate we are going this country will be broke. We have enough on our plates settling our own historical troubles without emptying the treasury purses on new ones The Ahmed Zaoui case has cost us a fortune & it's not over yet In my opinion "When in Rome do as the Romans do" Or find somewhere else that will better accommodate the needs of your family better than we can And no I am not a racist or a radical I'm just an average Joe Bloggs who is sick of seeing Hospital waiting lists growing while we spend huge amounts on people who should be grateful we are as generous as we are But never mind Helen will just move another 50 or so policemen from the crime units into patrol cars & start giving out even more tickest to fund this nonsense I haven't sussed out how to do a poll on this forum yet, maybe someone could start one. Burqa On or Burqa off	bartsdadhomer (80)
315210	2005-01-18 02:05:00	Well said bartsetc. I agree with every word. The biggest problem in this country is our polititians. They promise us the world before the elections, but once elected they only have one guiding rule. "Don't do anything that may stop me being re-elected next time" Jack	JJJJJ (528)
315211	2005-01-18 10:48:00	They shouldn't wear it in court & here's why. I was in a jury last year on a "small" case. The Judge in his instructions to the jury said that the way a witness gives evidence (ie body language) is as important as the evidence they give. you can't see that with the face covered!	MartynC (5610)
315212	2005-01-18 10:56:00	Agree with all previously expressed sentiments (even JJJJJ's :eek: )	ninja (1671)
315213	2005-01-18 11:04:00	Agree with all previously expressed sentiments (even JJJJJ's :eek: ) From this unbiased cross section of NZ I think we can safely say we do not approve of this get up. :groan: :)	Cicero (40)
315214	2005-01-18 11:09:00	Respect I believe a good comprimise has been attained in this case, if the lawers defence or proscution feel that the whole truth is not being given ( by reading body lanuage or other means) they can direct the questions accordly. A point about body lanuage, it changes from culture to culture, ( not looking directly into another person eyes could be a sign of respect in one culture, in another an indication of not telling the complete truth) so unless you are an expert in body lanuage and you know the cultural quirks it is not always a good indicator.	beama (111)
315215	2005-01-18 18:50:00	This is really starting to P*** me off The vast sums of OUR taxpayers money (not theirs, cause most haven't got any) spent on this sort of PC rubbish. We as a nation let all sorts of immigrants come & live here for all sorts of reasons I don't think too many Kiwis are against taking in refugees & their families, It's part of our obligation as a nation to help others less fortunate than ourselves as long as it's within our means to do so What really gets up my nose is the extaodinary lengths we go to to ensure we don't offend their sensibilities. We feed, clothe & house them. We supply jobs for those who want to work (and it seems once they have been here for a while, many of them soon learn they don't have to work, thanks to our over indulgent welfare system) We change our School rules to accomodate them I think it's about time refugees & other immigrants had to sign a waiver that they will agree to adapt to NZ ways, customs & laws or out you go Back to wherever it was you came If our ways are too difficult to abide by, go back home if it was so great. It was more than likely religious differences that forced them out of their own country in the first place & it seems to me when they arrive here they are almost forcing their beliefs upon our society & crying foul when denied their so called "rights" At the rate we are going this country will be broke. We have enough on our plates settling our own historical troubles without emptying the treasury purses on new ones The Ahmed Zaoui case has cost us a fortune & it's not over yet In my opinion "When in Rome do as the Romans do" Or find somewhere else that will better accommodate the needs of your family better than we can And no I am not a racist or a radical I'm just an average Joe Bloggs who is sick of seeing Hospital waiting lists growing while we spend huge amounts on people who should be grateful we are as generous as we are But never mind Helen will just move another 50 or so policemen from the crime units into patrol cars & start giving out even more tickest to fund this nonsense I haven't sussed out how to do a poll on this forum yet, maybe someone could start one. Burqa On or Burqa off In the court system everyone should be treated as equals. In everyday live, people should be allowed to exercise their beliefs, whether it be religious, cultural or otherwise. It's unfair to demand that people throw away their beliefs, their customs and traditions. If you went to an Islamic country with your family and kids, would you want to throw away your Kiwi way of life, and adapt to theirs?	somebody (208)
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