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Thread ID: 53580	2005-01-21 08:39:00	OT: Nuisance cats	manicminer (4219)	PC World Chat

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316492	2005-01-24 10:49:00	The shops in this town pay $5 for a goat,but won't shell up anything for a cat,they still take em for "disposel" though. And then there was the time they made me a milkshake using ice cubes because they ran out of icecream,they must have hoped i wouldn't notice (made a huge racket on the milkshake machine) Muhahahahaha.	Metla (12)
316493	2005-01-24 12:57:00	Mmmmm, I love making up home made electric deterrance systems. Like, once the neighbors stole our garbage bin every night, evil people. So I mounted it with four largeish (motorbike battery sized) 12 volt batteries and a coil and ran some near-invisible wire round the handle. Nobody ever said anything but it never got stolen again :D	george12 (7)
316494	2005-01-24 17:39:00	They especially like crapping under my lemon tree...I found a freshly laid deposit underneath it this morning. You lucky man! I wish we could train the local cats to do that for us... We have to go out and buy/collect manure for our garden, where as you ---- You lucky lucky man ----- get yours delivered hot of the press! :D	personthingy (1670)
316495	2005-01-24 20:53:00	I'm using a battery electric fence unit,a Gallagher,from Farmlands I think it was.I do have an ancient mains one, which has been lent to a client with cat problems,but this new one has a lot more kick!Running it off a spare car battery in the garage.Its electric fence wire is running around the bottom of my aviary,supported by short plastic conduit pipes with a hole drilled near the outside end to run the wire through,and at the moment crisscrossed over the pond as well.Having problems with pukekos getting my goldfish and mucking the pond,although they've disappeared at the moment,because of all the workers in the orchards.Have had great delight in seeing the neighbours dog and cat run screaming past our house ,to never return.The unit cost around $105.00,and will last for years.	Neil McC (178)
316496	2005-01-24 21:31:00	Those electric fences may be more practical, but a well placed boot gives much more satisfaction. Jack	JJJJJ (528)
316497	2005-01-24 22:24:00	Well, may cat is a bit of moron. And now that she's very od, she's taken to forgeting all the rules she used to obey, like not climbing up on tables, etc. But every so often I get up in the morning and there's a dead rat on the doorstep. That's my girl. Even at her advanced age she still keeps the vermin down. And a house-trained cat will do its business in fresh soild and cover it up again. I've never found litte messages on the lawn and we have a lot of cats in our neighbourhood. Not like dogs, which dump on your lawn, and on the verge and in the parks, and many owners don't do the decent thing and clean it up. Cats officially rock and no argument will be entered into. Thus speaks the voice of the cat-loving police.	Biggles (121)
316498	2005-01-25 00:17:00	And a house-trained cat will do its business in fresh soild and cover it up again . I've never found litte messages on the lawn and we have a lot of cats in our neighbourhood . Maybe manicminer's furry friends aren't "house-trained"? :p Seriously though, that has been my experience with the multitudes of felines who treat our property as their own personal playground . At one time there were deposits here and there that I accused them of but later discovered that it was actually hedgehogs who had done the dirty deeds . I used to throw a cup of water out the window at them to try and encourage them to use their own backyard until one day a neighbour's cat got deliberately poisoned and I got the finger pointed at me thanks to my big-mouthed daughter telling another neighbour's children about my "training methods" . It didn't help either when their decomposed cat was found under our deck some months after going missing . :dogeye: The site appears to be down at the moment but the perfect PC accessory is one of these ( . dansdata . com/kitten . htm" target="_blank">www . dansdata . com) . :D	FoxyMX (5)
316499	2005-01-25 00:22:00	I agree with BB and FoxyMx, it's very unusual for a cat to leave a "surface mounted deposit". We get them all the time with hedgehogs though. And I always use one of these and take my cat with me... internet.ls-la.net	godfather (25)
316500	2005-01-25 04:45:00	And I always use one of these and take my cat with me . . . . ls-la . net/pictures/Cat-Carrier . html" target="_blank">internet . ls-la . net :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Right . Scratch (sic) one Godfather off Christmas card list . And I'm off to tell Bruce . :p	Winston001 (3612)
316501	2005-01-25 07:04:00	Look, you're delving into illegal action here. Someone put out poinsoned milk for cats because they were afraid of them getting their precious goldfish and pidgeons, and they were fined in court for their actions. Sowing shredded glass for the cats to "discover", trapping a domestic cat and handing it in as a stray, giving them large electric shocks - those are all just as dubious. I'm sorry, but I won't stop short of saying you are an incredibly cruel person for not considering a mature resolution of your situation. Hang about before anyone else jumps on the bandwagon. Lets put a couple of things straight. Firstly I've absolutely no intention of breaking the law. Secondly, although I don't particularly care much for cats, it's not my wish to cause harm any animal. The whole electric fence at 10000V thing...that was just a joke remark. Besides, I would also need alot of current to be effective. You think I want to put one of those in my backyard? I think not. The standard electric fence may have practical uses, but in my case there are so many corners to cover that it's not particularly worth setting up. And the broken glass thing...actually may serve as a practical deterrent. One thing some people do is to spread broken hazlenut shells around particular spots (I found that idea off a cat lovers' site). Try walking barefoot on these - you will probably cut your feet. Broken glass...same thing, except being shiny I suspect a cat will see it reflecting light and be more likely to see it and avoid it. However, in practice i will do neither. It doesn't make much sense when there's a 2 year old running round your back garden. What you need to consider is that simply aiming the hose at a cat and saying 'shoo' will not deter it from returning to the same spot. You need to use stronger measures. Unfortunately many of the remedies you can buy in pet stores aren't particularly effective. And the trap thing...it is certainly not illegal to trap a cat. The SPCA and Animal Control actually hire out traps specifically for the purpose of catching stray and feral cats. Unless I catch these animals and take them to the SPCA, how am I supposed to know whether they are stray, feral or domestic? I live on the edge of a city, quite near farmland and bush, so perhaps these are ferals or strays. If they turn out to be domestic, well then perhaps that's a good start to finding out who the owner is. I must add though, the cat trap thing is a last resort as there's potentially quite alot of hassle involved. So sorry, I'm not a cruel person. One can't blame the cats for their behaviour. One can only blame the owners for not taking enough responsibility for ensuring that they don't cause a nuisance. Although I don't condone his actions, I actually have alot of sympathy for that guy who layed out the poison. The neighbour's cat was causing alot of grief by killing his birds and fish. The only thing he did wrong was to break the law. It's ironic that if it were a dog causing such destruction it would be put down. And if it were a possum, noone would blink an eyelid at someone taking out a gun and shooting it. All perfectly legal. And you probably wouldn't see any anti-cruelty cat lovers complaining about those animals suffering. I also didn't see any compensation or sympathy from the owner of the cat that killed his birds. But for some reason, cat's are allowed to cause such mischief. I'm surprised there are no cat control laws here in New Zealand, especially as there's alot of native wildlife (eg the kiwi) suffering because of domestic and feral cats.	manicminer (4219)
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