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Thread ID: 53580	2005-01-21 08:39:00	OT: Nuisance cats	manicminer (4219)	PC World Chat

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316592	2005-05-13 05:47:00	I think Bruce was rather kind to this chap - outbursts of swearing which justify deleting ought to cause a 24 hour ban regardless. Surely we don't need to have a big "No swearing" sign on the opening page for teenagers .....	TonyF (246)
316593	2006-01-12 10:07:00	www.stuff.co.nz PCA has its claws out for kitten dumper 10 January 2006 By ESTHER HARWARD The SPCA is likely to press charges against a woman who deliberately released a kitten into the wild in front of Hamilton staff because they refused to take the animal. Under the Animal Welfare Act, the maximum penalty is six months in prison and/or a $25,000 fine. The SPCA's Waikato manager Chris Wood said staff wanted to make a point that they were at capacity. They could not take any more cats and had limited funding to deal with an already-full branch. Two hundred cats are waiting for new homes. Staff would trace the woman through her car licence plate and would urge the Waikato SPCA committee to charge the woman. Mrs Wood said the woman became frustrated when told by Hamilton staff yesterday that the branch was full. She then released the three or four-month-old kitten from a box and it ran off into industrial land surrounding the Frankton office. Staff will try to catch the kitten today. Mrs Wood said the woman claimed she could not care for the cat because her granddaughter was allergic to them. But in the same conversation she told staff she already had two cats, Mrs Wood said.	manicminer (4219)
316594	2006-01-12 10:08:00	www.stuff.co.nz Kitten dumper hits back 11 January 2006 A Hamilton woman who could face charges after dumping a kitten in the SPCA's doorway this week says she was trying to do the right thing by bringing it to the organisation. The woman – who did not wish to be named – said she was not responsible for the cat because it was a stray. The three to four-month-old feral kitten had been living in her backyard at her rural home and would have been killed by other wild cats, she said. She had let it out of its box in front of staff on Monday when they told her they could not take it because their waiting list was full. Whether the woman can be prosecuted will depend on whether she is deemed to be the "person in charge" of the cat under the Animal Welfare Act. Waikato SPCA manager Chris Wood said staff believed the woman became the person in charge just by bringing it to the Hamilton premises, but the law could be "open to interpretation" and they would seek legal advice. The woman said she had worked at the SPCA 45 years ago when all strays were accepted. She was "really annoyed" the SPCA had asked her to look after the kitten. Advertisement Advertisement "I am 69 years old and I have believed all my life that the SPCA was the place to take stray cats." She already had two cats which had lived outside since her granddaughter was born because she was allergic to them. Mrs Wood said people were asked to feed stray cats and check with the SPCA if there was enough room to take them. A post-Christmas influx of unwanted pets had created a waiting list of 200 cats needing a home and resources were at capacity.	manicminer (4219)
316595	2006-01-12 10:12:00	I say fine all people who have cats and release them into the "wild" (ie out their front door). :) Honestly - it's bad enough having idiots buy animals who cant be bothered to look after them. But when the SPCA take this attitude towards someone who genuinely seems to care about the animals, it just makes it more likely that people will dump their animals elsewhere.	manicminer (4219)
316596	2006-01-12 10:16:00	I have a GREAT Idea! CAT STEW!!! :p Feed the starving and reduce the number of ferals and strays all at the same time :lol:	bob_doe_nz (92)
316597	2006-01-12 13:08:00	Gorgeous idea of yours, bob. Could you provide us the recipe? :lol: Cheers :)	Renmoo (66)
316598	2006-01-12 18:23:00	Just a few ideas: My father was a cat lover and we grew up with cats. All our cats always did their business in one of the gardens. Anytime we had a neighbours cat issue, Dad would help it move away with a pot of cold water. Couple of those and the cat wasnt seen crapping on our property again. Cold water is not cruel and does work. I like the idea of the motion-controlled water sprinkler, get one if you can (that way you don't have to be there all the time to try and catch the cat in the act). Another idea... somewhere I read that cats are very scent orientated (as my mate/neighbour found out when my cat sprayed his bedroom - twice.. back when we were kids) and will usually crap in the same area... maybe dig the dirt from around your lemon tree and I dunno, throw it somewhere next door lol. Or try sprinkling some real smelly substance (like the mothball suggestion) to deter the cats.	Myth (110)
316599	2006-01-12 19:50:00	The cat problem is a people problem. Specifically those that think a cat is like an item of furniture or an ornament - you get one and then spend a lot of time ignoring it. Look at the numbers of animals the SPCA has been getting - massive numbers of cats and kittens and a few dogs and other animals. Theres a lady near me guilty of this - she has tons of them and doesn't feed them properly, they aren't neutered and thus wander, breed like cockroaches etc. The SPCA say as there are no laws on how many you keep they can't check her out unless I specifically see any mistreatment of them or they are in very bad condition. The one that comes here to eat each evening is not considered bad. But this year when the sick, starved kittens turn up again I will ring them again and they say they can come in that case. I have 3 - all neutered and they get a lot of attention, so they are content to hang about our place, lying around on the monitor and playing with my parts boxes and stuff. They have their own gardens here to do their business in. In fact they prefer our place for that reason - the neighbours don't have gardens so they don't like their places much. cats like to find a nice patch of freshly dug dirt or something similar. If you have a problem with cats that belong to someone who cares - ask them to provide a dug patch for them at their own house. The ones who don't care are the problem.	pctek (84)
316600	2006-01-12 20:55:00	1 kg boneless cat, cut into 2cm cubes salt & pepper, to taste 1 large onion, chopped 3 leeks, chopped and well rinsed 6 carrots, peeled and cut into 4cm julienne 2 teaspoons of sugar 2 1/2 cups of stock 2 1/2 cups of red wine 2 tablespoons of tomato paste 2 tablespoons of butter 2 tablespoons of red currant jelly 1 tablespoon fresh rosemary, chopped 2 cups of pearl onions, red or white 8 ounces of mushrooms, sliced (wild mushrooms if available) 8 -10 red new potatoes, quartered 6 cloves of garlic, minced 1/2 of fresh flat-leaf parsley, chopped Sauté the cat in sauté pan untill browned, season with saly and pepper, then transfer to large pot. Add the onions, leeks, carrots, and to the sauté pan, add sugar and cook over medium high heat for approximately 8 minutes. Remove the vegetables and reserve in a large bowl. Add the butter to the sauté pan and sauté the mushrooms over medium high heat for approximately 10 minutes. Transfer to the reserved vegetables. Add the wine to deglaze the sauté pan, then the stock, and then whisk in red currant jam, tomato paste and rosemary. Cook for a couple of minutes and add to the pot with the meat. Add the potatoes and garlic to the meat, and cooking liquid. Bring to a boil, cover, and simmer for 45 minutes. Add the reserved vegetables, half the chopped parsley and continue cooking until the meat is tender. (approximately 30-45 minutes less if you use kittens) Serve using the remaining parsley for garnish.	Rob99 (151)
316601	2006-01-12 22:00:00	Hey, if anyone has, or knows someone who has, a pair (preferably a male/female pair) of kittens, me and missus would be very interested. We're planning to go to SPCA soon to see if we can find some, but really want a pair. Needs to be in Auckland, and we'll pay a small price if they're absolutely gorgeous.	Greg (193)
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