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Thread ID: 53873 2005-01-29 23:53:00 Insight. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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319264 2005-01-30 05:09:00 Nothing to do with age I think.
Einstein would have been young when he had his best insight.

Experience is a by product of age
but it depends on how u define insight
the highlander (245)
319265 2005-01-30 06:24:00 Experience is a by product of age
but it depends on how u define insight

With respect, I must disagree. I'd suggest that lads of 23 who survived the Great War, Vietnam etc had an overdose of experience.

I've just been talking to an 85yr old gentleman, with much life experience as a farmer and a soldier. He is a kind decent man. But his complete lack of insight into other people and lives different to his own is staggering.

So insight is an elusive beast.
Winston001 (3612)
319266 2005-01-30 06:54:00 In my case, experience is what enables me to recognise a mistake when I make it for the second, third or fourth time .

I believe insight is a mixture of perception and an innate understanding, that many people do not have and will possibly never have .

In others it may come with age and experience, but it's not guaranteed to .

I actually sell insight for a living at times (or the result of insight) .
godfather (25)
319267 2005-01-30 06:59:00 Experience is a by product of age
but it depends on how u define insight
I would also disagree. I believe there will be alot of young kids out there in third-world nations that would have done more in their lifetime doing work than some early-30s in NZ still sitting at home playing computer games. While they may not have the experience of Halo, etc. they certainly know more about life in general. Don't think that just because you are old that you are experienced. Personally, I'd just liken the whole issue to members on PF1.

I also liked the way Billy said about experience as coming from mistakes. I certainly learn most myself from making mistakes. :badpc:
~sy~ (95)
319268 2005-01-30 07:05:00 I would imagine a child in a third would country would be experienced at eating dirt and not dieing, They only know the reality of their lives,which is suffering and short, Not exactly a voice of experience that i would consult .

Anyhow,Just musing . No fool like an old fool as they say .

Dictionary definition .

1 : understanding or awareness of one's mental or emotional condition; especially : recognition that one is mentally ill
2 : immediate and clear understanding (as seeing the solution to a problem or the means to reaching a goal) that takes place without recourse to overt trial-and-error behavior




Insight is commen,happens everyday,and is greatly relient on past experiences and knowledge of the subject .
Metla (12)
319269 2005-01-30 07:06:00 I have to agree with Highlander that it depends on how insight is defined .

My Concise Collins lists four shades of meaning .

Cicero had this in mind:
2 . "a penetrating and often sudden understanding, as of a complex situation or problem" . At least, that was what I assumed . A sudden "Eureka" .

Then we have,
1 . "the ability to perceive clearly or deeply; penetration . "

3 . "(Psychol), the capacity for understanding ones own or another's mental processes . "

4 . "(Psychiatry), the ability to understand one's own problems . "

I think your example Win would fall into definition 3 .
Terry Porritt (14)
319270 2005-01-30 07:37:00 I don't have any "insight" and while I don't really believe in "ESP" it scares me silly the number of times that something happens just as I am thinking about it .

For example I often start thinking of certain people, quite often out of the blue, for no reason whatsoever, even people I haven't thought about for a while, then they either turn up at the door, phone up, email or show up on IM immediately or within minutes afterwards . :eek:

For another example I can't count the number of times when I will be thinking of something then The Boss will start talking about it - even things totally unrelated to what had been happening recently . It's really scary sometimes - I don't want him reading my mind!! :p

I just really really wish I had taken notice of and acted on the "feeling" that I had last Friday evening . It would have saved quite a lot of grief . :(
FoxyMX (5)
319271 2005-01-30 07:43:00 ROFL me ROFL, that's not insight FoxyMX, that's second-sight. Terry Porritt (14)
319272 2005-01-30 07:43:00 Terry, Terry, Terry - what a load of cods this is.... He was in his bath tub one day in ancient Greece when he suddenly had this flash of light, an inspiration if you like, and he leapt from the tub and ran naked through the streets of Athens crying "Eureka"....

And that as any electronics man or even electrician will know is how we came to have eureka resistance wire.

We all accept the first bit about the bath but the man's discovery was a method of measuring the volume of an irregularly shaped object (in this case himself) by the quantity of water displaced when the object is immersed in a beaker of liquid - hence the eureka jar used by generations of kids in school. :cool: No insight here. Just practical application.
Scouse (83)
319273 2005-01-30 07:50:00 You mean to say Scouse that Archimedes didnt discover eureka wire? Oh dear, and all this time I have been under this misaprehension.

Of course he was a hydraulics engineer wasn't he? He invented the propeller that was fitted to early steam powered ships, that is where the name "screw" came from as in Archimedes Screw.
Terry Porritt (14)
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