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| Thread ID: 54641 | 2005-02-18 01:10:00 | Gallipoli | JJJJJ (528) | PC World Chat |
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| 326063 | 2005-02-18 01:10:00 | I have been involved in a discussion group on the subject of some Aussie pop star singing at the Galllipoli rememberance (or whatever it is). The general consensus is that he should not. Phrases like pop concert in a cemetery prevailed. I took the view that 99 percent of the population don't care and those in the cemetery certainly won't. After 90 years I think it's just sentimental twaddle. Am I on my own with these views? Jack |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 326064 | 2005-02-18 01:31:00 | I agree with the PM, Its a killing feild,and will considered as such untill the memory fades. | Metla (12) | ||
| 326065 | 2005-02-18 01:39:00 | Crikey Jack, you are progressive. Good on you. I'm not so keen because I think silence, or at least the sound of wind and waves says it best at Gallopoli. | Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 326066 | 2005-02-18 01:46:00 | Anything that keeps John Farnham silent is all right with me. | Biggles (121) | ||
| 326067 | 2005-02-18 02:37:00 | My Father was one of five brothers who went to GALLIPOLLI and one brother did not come home....................HE has medals for Gallipoli Pashendale and The Somne and his brother who died was..... Shoeing Smith Corporal 212225 N.Z. Field Artillery who died on Monday,, 15th April 1,918. WE honour them in our thoughts and quietly but with no big bands or loud music as they live on in our hearts...... |
olldaddy78 (6546) | ||
| 326068 | 2005-02-18 02:54:00 | I went to gallipoli a few years ago, and I really couldn't imagine holding a concert there, the atmosphere of the place is miserable, there are graves everywhere and they're all around the age I was at the time, I think a concert would be fine if it was held away from the battle field area I think the nearby town of Cannakle would be more suitable, it also has more accomadation and pubs, (rather than having some yobs going to the battlefield getting pissed and puking everywhere) I remember we all went there just to have a beer and relax after being at gallipolli as actually being there was really overpowering (way more than you would think from descriptions and books etc). I am not a great fan of Helen clark, But I think she got this call right Thanks Nigel |
Morgenmuffel (187) | ||
| 326069 | 2005-02-18 03:18:00 | I visited Gallipoli back in the 70's as a callow youth and it was one of the most profoundly sad and moving experiences of my life. IMO it is a place for remembrance and solemn reflection, not singing or any other form of popular entertainment. I have the greatest respect for the Turkish people, the way in which they have cared for their one-time enemies' graves, and the way they welcome New Zealanders and Australian visitors to Gallipoli. A tribute to the memory of the ANZACS by M. Kemal Atatürk in 1934 (Founder of the Turkish Republic in 1923) THE ANZAC MEMORIAL Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore, rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side, here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries... Wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land, they have become our sons as well. |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 326070 | 2005-02-18 04:10:00 | I must say I prefer Billy T's approach rather than the "sentimental twaddle" approach from JJJJJ. | TonyF (246) | ||
| 326071 | 2005-02-18 04:31:00 | I must say I prefer Billy T's approach rather than the "sentimental twaddle" approach from JJJJJ. I am with you on this. Sadly I have not had the opportunity to visit Gallipoli, but both of my daughters have gone there on different Anzac Days, and had a similar experience to Billy T's. Sadly in the three years between the visits of my older and younger daughters, the atmosphere seemed to have deteriorated; many of the young Aussies and Kiwis going there by the time of the later visit seemed to be after yet another excuse for a booze up. I am supportive of anything that preserves the dignity of the memorials for all of the Allies and Turks who died there, and I doubt a rock concert or yet another Johnny from across the ditch will do that. It is bad enough having to put up with Aussie PM "Little Johnny" strutting his stuff, without adding another one. It would be good if we could live up to the dignity expressed by Kemal Ataturk as quoted by Billy T. I had three uncles serve in Europe in WW1, but none went to Gallipoli thank goodness. Approximate quote from a Les Carlyon book on Gallipoli (he is an Aussie) referring to a modern Anzac Day observance at the site "The young Aussies murdered a few slabs of beer, and the young Kiwis murdered a lot of vowels." |
John H (8) | ||
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