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Thread ID: 142200 2016-05-16 10:55:00 Digital Camera Spec Question learning (5137) PC World Chat
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1420619 2016-05-16 10:55:00 I am planning on getting a good compact Point and Shoot Digital camera.

I have narrowed my choice Canon PowerShot G7X Mark II and Sony DSC-RX100 IV
From the web reviews it seems Sony is better overall. Mostly due to its 4K video recording vs Canons 1080p. But people
also are leaning on better image quality for Sony also.

I am not that much interested in video recording but looking at the focal specs Sony is 24-70mm / (2.9x) / F1.8-2.8
and Canon is 24-100mm / 4.2x / F1.8 - 2.8.

It seems Canon has better optical range but I am not sure so can anyone with
good knowledge in cameras advise whether this is a huge plus in Canons favor ?
What is pro /con of the range of these values.

I will mostly will be taking Hiking pics / nature and the occasional people/objects.
So i was thinking i will be "limited" with Sonys zoom specs?

Any other tips on what these focal length / optical zoom / aperture specs translates to in laymans term would be appreciated.


Cheers
learning (5137)
1420620 2016-05-16 20:25:00 Pretty close but the GX7 has slightly better image quality but the RX100 has better features and cheaper

cameradecision.com
Lawrence (2987)
1420621 2016-05-16 21:25:00 I don't understand the numbers, but personally have found you always want more Zoom. I didn't think I cared about Zoom for my snapshots I take when I go walking to waterfalls so my first camera only had 3x
I found I used the Zoom on full all the time and wanted more so the next one had 10x and my current one has 24x. 24x is about as high as You can get on a compact camera and is pretty useful.

It's good enough to take moon shots with some practice. Also I visited the local Zoo last year and got some awesome shots thanks to great natural lighting and a decent Zoom. I got a shot of a Rhino that looks like I was standing right in front of it. It just gives you more opportunities to get a good shot, plus photo's always look smaller than what I remember seeing in person.

Also on top of all that my 10x zoom Fuji camera that I was pretty happy with got replaced because my Note 3 phone can take photo's that look basically the same so all it had in it's favour was the Zoom. The camera on many smartphones now is good enough to replace basic point and shoot cameras so you need something a bit better to make it worthwhile carrying IMHO.
dugimodo (138)
1420622 2016-05-16 21:36:00 - for landscapes, zoom in close, take a dozen Hi-res photos, put them in a panorama and drag the huge image around on a big screen. Gives a great feeling of being there! But you need a focal length of 250 mm

- Panasonic are probably the market leaders in compact cameras. Also in image stabilisation

- I would go for the Panasonic ZS100 (called TZ110 in New Zealand). 1" sensor in a compact camera, 10x zoom

- personally I would add a little video to hiking pics. Say you reach a high point on the trail and the view is breath-taking. Well, back up 10 m, start the video rolling and slowly walk up to the high point. It gives a great feeling of being there (and you get audio)
BBCmicro (15761)
1420623 2016-05-16 21:51:00 I own a G7X camera. I love it. I have been a Canon user since the 80's. Excellent cameras with great lenses. Saying that, Sony also make excellent cameras with great lenses. Most compact cameras these days are very good. For picture quality though, go for one with a big sensor and always take photos at the best quality setting. Both cameras have 1 inch sensors so the choice comes down to zoom length and other functions, most of which you probably won't use :)

I chose the G7X because of years of using great Canon cameras. No other reason.

Ken
kenj (9738)
1420624 2016-05-16 22:37:00 Here is an interesting article on sensor sizes photo.stackexchange.com

Interesting comments on picture quality through this. As one person says

Is this a joke? Quote: "A large number (tens of millions) of smartphone users are getting good photos with small sensors." If you mean "looks good on a smartphone screen" is "good", maybe. Print quality? No. Desktop background... not really... Tiny webpic: Maybe (same resolution as smartphone). In most cases you can spot a phone has been used - without going to the pixel level. And what some "professional" or "self-proclaimed guru" or what not predicts is also not helpful. Look at what the people buy. Also, there is a reasona micro 4/3 is successful - pretty good quality in a small package

Lots to think about Most notably, small sensors make it easier to design and manufacture superzoom lenses. I look at it in the way that I can seriously crop a large sensor image as opposed to one from a camera with a long zoom range on a small sensor.

Just my thoughts :)

Ken :banana
kenj (9738)
1420625 2016-05-16 23:18:00 Would personally go for the Sony out of those two. They smashed it with their RX100 series.

Having said that, if you're willing go get a *slightly* larger camera, there are some great alternatives.

The EOS M3 series - not the best mirrorless camera out, but definitely better than a compact, and pretty well priced: www.kens.co.nz
Or something like the GM5: www.photowarehouse.co.nz
Nick G (16709)
1420626 2016-05-17 07:49:00 Cheers guys for the info and tips. I will check out the links. learning (5137)
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