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Thread ID: 54706 2005-02-20 00:12:00 Linux Now Easier To Use Than Windows? vinref (6194) PC World Chat
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326683 2007-02-15 21:52:00 We must live on different planets, or at least I must. :confused:

My original installation of W98 is over 10 years old and still running just fine, boots every day and all programs present and correct. Likewise my W2K installation which is about 6 years old I think and just works, no problems, no hassles. I did have to restore an image when a ram stick failure corrupted it a few years back, but being an image, it is still the original installation. How much more reliable could I want?

Billy, I'm pleased for you that your win98 installation has not suffered from the acknowledged memory flaws, in particular, inherent in that OS. However, your argument begs the question as to why Windows was changed from win98/ME to win2k, because those changes were not merely down to adding a few doodahs for the users to play with; why change if win98 was so solid, why not just add the additional functionality and change its name?



The majority of Windows problems are created by its ease of use, which lets anybody and everybody play to their heart's content. It's not surprising that some have problems, and the same would apply to Linux if it had the same user base and demographic, but a more non-standardised OS you could never want to meet. If all Linux distributions were identical and it was exposed to the user-base, range of uses and applications that Windows copes with, similar problems would arise. Same probably goes for Mac, which has a strictly limited range of hardware and software.

Bit of a howler there old son. The OSs (win, Mac/Nix Lin/Nix) are fundamentally different in what can be done with them and what user applications can do to the OS. No matter how many users there are, those differences in the fundamental approach remains fundamentally different.

Though I agree that user permissions (the authority for users and their applications to do stuff) and there ability to do things to Windows has a marked affect on reliability and is a large part of Windows Achilles heel. So why is it allowed to be that way, it is not necessary for a functioning Operating System to allow such unfettered access to the core of the OS. Just to hammer the point, when you deny that access you increase reliability and that is not a function of the installed base.


If you ride a push bike you are unlikely to ever experience fuel-injection problems, suffer a parachute failure or get a parking ticket. It's all about exposure and there are many times more Windows users that Mac, Linux and all other OS types put together.

It is simply not possible to make a valid "like with like" comparison between Windows and Linux computers, or Macs for that matter, but without doubt a Windows OS is vastly easier for a novice to install, customise, adapt, upgrade, and break. Market share resolves all arguments and answers all questions. 95%/5%/?%

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here Billy, I'm a bit dim but, you seem to be supporting the opposite of what you said in%
Murray P (44)
326684 2007-02-15 22:46:00 Ok, something weird is going on. The post above was truncated, the last para or two missing, so I edited it, then the edit timed out I was kindly informed that I couln'dt edit past 15mins.

So here's the missing bit:


Billy's & my bits from the previous post.... blah blah blah blah blah + one more for Billy: blah!

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here Billy, I'm a bit dim but, you seem to be supporting the opposite of what you said in the previous paras, i.e in part supporting what I have said???

Anyway, being the prudent, thoughtful person you are, you are a bad example to judge an OSs reliability by. I doubt you'd have anything that was not as functional for "your" needs as it possibly could and that would be it, no playing around, no unnecessary twiddling. I also doubt that anything you own would be allowed to moulder to a state of disrepair, it just ain't you.

In short, your atypical, a very bad example on which to compare the average or majority of users. Thoroughly bad indeed.
Murray P (44)
326685 2007-02-15 23:23:00 It was perfectly fine before you edited it, You finished by calling Billy BAD.

I reckon your internet farted, didn't load the entire post for viewing and your dodgy linux browser put the formatting in and fooled you into thinking that was the end...

Which is why niether dear old mums world wide nor Nasa use linux, And God save us all if they did.
Metla (12)
326686 2007-02-15 23:32:00 Proof.

www.infoworld.com

Now, Musical Interlude...

Sweet child in time you'll see the line

The line that's drawn between the good and the bad

See the blind man shooting at the world

Bullets flying taking toll

If you've been bad, Lord I bet you have

And you've been hit by flying lead

You'd better close your eyes and bow your head

And wait for the ricochet
Metla (12)
326687 2007-02-15 23:59:00 It was perfectly fine before you edited it, You finished by calling Billy BAD.

I reckon your internet farted, didn't load the entire post for viewing and your dodgy linux browser put the formatting in and fooled you into thinking that was the end...

Which is why niether dear old mums world wide nor Nasa use linux, And God save us all if they did.

F orf Met's I was using Win2k at the time (damn you to hell and a pox on your poxy pox for drawing that out of me :mad: ).

As for Billy being a bad example, it cannot be questioned; you know it, I know it, everyone in the freakin forum knows it. The only person in the Whole Wide World in the dark over this little tid bit of information is Billy himself. Although I'd hesitate to call him ignorant or delusional.

BTW, check it out, NASA + Linux. (www.google.co.nz) & Dear Old Mums + linux (www.google.co.nz). Repent you unbeliever.


It's an overblown crappy song too. :yuck:
Murray P (44)
326688 2007-02-16 00:12:00 Crappy?

My god man, are you insane?

Sure, at the end of the day the OS of choice is meaningless dribble, But calling Child in Time crappy?, My god, Madness, It has a 2 minute guitar solo for Christs sake, 2 freakin minutes, God damn, Classic legendary, jawdropping,brain mellting genius song for sure, but Crappy?...not unless your so far over the line that you have no idea there was a line.

Do you see the line?

well?

Do ya?


Oh yeah, Nice work using Windows to promote Linux, Probally had this www.youtube.com playing while you posted as well, Though Im certain there is a 20 minute version somewhere.

:D:D:D:D:D
Metla (12)
326689 2007-02-16 00:25:00 That got you going .

Not my fav DP song, but still superior to a lot of the copy cat dross that came after it . RB's not a bad guitar player either, makes a bit of a difference, eh! :rolleyes:
Murray P (44)
326690 2007-02-16 00:33:00 Especially as in this day and age having musical ability is discouraged in the music biz, But then so is singing ability and songwriting skills.

Aside from Richie Blackmore the entire bad had talent far and above most normal mortals, and were especially gifted with the likes of Jon Lord, Ian Gillain and Mr Blackmore, all legends in their own right.


uh.....Not that I'm much of a fan.

But loud music does drown out the noise of my Windows machine inviting in hackers and crashing....


Comin out of nowhere
Drivin like rain
Stormbringer dance
On the thunder again
Dark cloud gathering
Breaking the day
No point running
cause its coming your way

Ride the rainbow
Crack the sky
Stormbringer coming
Time to die
Got to keep running
Stormbringer coming
Hes got nothing you need
Hes gonna make you bleed

Rainbow shaker
On a stallion twister
Bareback rider
On the eye of the sky
Stormbringer coming down
Meaning to stay
Thunder and lightning
Heading your way

Ride the rainbow
Crack the sky
Stormbringer coming
Time to die
Got to keep running
Stormbringer coming
Hes got nothing you need
Hes gonna make you bleed

Coming out of nowhere
Drivin like a-rain
Stormbringer dance
On the thunder again
Dark cloud gathering
Breaking the day
No point running
cause its coming your way
Metla (12)
326691 2007-02-16 00:35:00 And, the most stupid item I have seen today on youtube.

www.youtube.com
Metla (12)
326692 2007-02-16 00:54:00 Wasn't worth more than a few kbs of my bandwidth .

Why do people insist on proving to the world they are talentless morons? If parents won't do it, the schools will simply have to start teaching discretion as a method of attaining your true potential without doing damage to society .

Funnily enough, my kids bought me a DP CD the Christmas before last . Great stuff and I thank them for that . I also see a trend with some of the kids, mine and a few of their friends anyway, where they are seeking out and listening to late 60s, 70 & 80s music of the non-bubblegum variety . So maybe the worm is turning, but the herd mentality, marketing and greed are powerful forces to combat . As we, the more astute, see with Windows .
Murray P (44)
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