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Thread ID: 55088 2005-03-02 08:37:00 How much for cabling? Edward (31) PC World Chat
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329812 2005-03-02 08:37:00 Hi everyone. I'm looking into getting the internet & file sharing into my bedroom, with the current network still working. At the moment there are 2 computers, side by side. I'd like to move the old one up to my bedroom, purely because there isn't enough tablespace where the computers are. Now to do this will require some effort. Since it's an excruciatingly old computer, getting a Wireless network is out of the question, so I'm wanting to get a wired network.

It's a 2 story house, with the rooms directly above one another, so ii [hopefully] should be easy enough. All I'm looking for is one ethernet wall plug in the living room (where it is now) and one near my desk (where it's going to go). So how much does anyone estimate it'll cost? All it'll need to be is standard 100mb/s cable, but the outer wall is stone (inner is gib I think), sowould that cause any problems? I have a budget of $700, and whether it'll cost way less or more than that I have no idea, which is why i'm asking :o

Thanks, Edward
Edward (31)
329813 2005-03-02 09:23:00 where do you live, i live in howick, auckland and had a guy charge me $120 for a network cable. pm me if you want his name Tux (606)
329814 2005-03-02 09:58:00 You can pick up cat5e or cat6 cable, RJ45 end plugs and wall outlets from your local electrical suppliers, IIRC it cost me about $35- for 25 odd metres and several outlets and plugs, a couple of years ago. All you need to do is borrow the crimpers for fitting the RJ45's.

It's better to purchase the raw materials and make up the cable to yourself rather than buy pre-made from DSE or the like because:

a) it's cheaper, you measure and cut/purchase it exactly to your needs,
b) you can learn something &
c) you'll be drilling much smaller holes and finding it easier to pull the cable if it has no plugs on it.
Murray P (44)
329815 2005-03-02 10:20:00 IIRC it cost me about $35- for 25 odd metres and several outlets and plugs, a couple of years ago .

Hey Murray, excuse my ignorance, but what the heck is IIRC . :confused:

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :help:
Billy T (70)
329816 2005-03-02 10:25:00 www.urbandictionary.com

Urban Dictionary. Live it, learn it, love it.
ninja (1671)
329817 2005-03-02 10:50:00 had same issue a few years back. I bought a 30m cable for $25 off trademe, some trader there buys it in bulk and makes it to size so take a look around there. That leaves you with $675 left to play with :) BYoung (7403)
329818 2005-03-02 10:59:00 Even buying the crimping tool leaves you well off in comparison.
Just be sure you are not colour blind when making off the cable. I am, it's a pain but I still do all my own cables. They work - eventually.
godfather (25)
329819 2005-03-02 11:01:00 Hey Murray, excuse my ignorance, but what the heck is IIRC . :confused:

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :help:


Might be time to reacquaint myself with a certain FAQ, do ya reackon ;)

As per Ninja's post, If I Remeber Correctly, which I obviously have trouble doing :@@:

BTW (By The Way), I'd only reccommend making up the cable if the distance is more than a few metres and your running it from room to room .
Murray P (44)
329820 2005-03-02 20:58:00 I can get network cables for $1 per metre + shipping, PM me if you want some... MichaelMu (4622)
329821 2005-03-03 00:44:00 If you want to go to the trouble of installing the cable in the wall, you may as well do it properly . That means that you don't thread a cable and crimp a RJ45 on each end . You install wall plates and sockets, and use "patch cables" from them to the computers . I wouldn't bother making my own patch cables any more . You can buy them so cheaply it's not worth it . (And I do have the crimping tool) .

The first problem with that is that it "looks wrong" and amateur to have a cable with a plug coming out of a hole in the wall .

The second is that RJ45s are an "expendable/consumable" item . They break .
Each time you change the plug the cable gets shorter .

The third is that if you install the proper solid conductor in the wall, you will almost certainly be using the wrong RJ45 plugs . There are 2 types; one for stranded (the ones DSEs stock) and the other for solid conductor cable .

The sockets are meant to be used with solid conductor (they use the same Krone 110 insulation displacement connectors as the telephone system) . The newer ones come with push-on caps which do the connection as you push them on, so you don't even need a tool to install them .

The difficult part is running the cable . I'd look for "cheats' ways" first . Are you lucky enough to have built-in cupboards or wardrobes in both rooms, in a vertical line? ;) That's "hole in the wardrobe floor" time . Otherwise, see if you are allowed to run a "duct" from socket to ceiling and from floor to socket? The duct is a plastic extrusion -- a "top hat section" --- which protects the cable and looks less obtrusive . That would let you have a simple hole through the floor or ceiling (as appropriate) next to the wall .

Ask at an electrical wholesaler about ducting . You might be able to get designer colours . ;)

Don't put telephone or computer network sockets at floor or skirting board level . That is asking for trouble . Put them at table height, or higher, away from vacuum cleaner nozzles, brooms, dogs, carnivorous walking fish, babies and feet .

Paying someone to do it will cost . . . though certainly less than $700 . There will be a minium charge , but the main cost will be for time . The significant part of the time would be for running the cable .
Graham L (2)
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