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Thread ID: 55052	2005-03-01 10:10:00	Teleportation / Time travelling...	Renmoo (66)	PC World Chat

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329515	2005-03-07 07:02:00	Excellent Tony. Where do you find this stuff? Anyway, back to the science. Moving while avoiding space/time. The Universe is homogenous. In other words, it is the same in all directions on a large scale. Nonsense you say? If you left Earth and headed for the edge of the Universe you would eventually arrive at...........Earth. Just as if you left Invercargill and headed off to the end of the world. You'd end up back at Invercargill. Some may see the hand of a capricious Deity in this - after all, why couldn't you at least end up in Queenstown? But thats the way it works. Space is curved. The easiest way to think of this is to imagine the Universe as being the surface of a giant globe. All journeys away from Earth in a straight line lead back to Earth - just like they do here in the real world. The path followed is curved. The trick is to take a straight line betwen two points instead of the curve. Just as it is faster to Spain through the centre of the Earth than going around the outside. There is just the insignificant matter of building the tunnel. So teleportation may require taking the shortcut. If we can imagine it, then it may just be a matter of time until we can do it. Food for thought. :2cents:	Winston001 (3612)
329516	2005-03-07 07:49:00	While you are at it,what is death exactly? And just for Tom - Shopkeeper - Sorry, we're closing for lunch. Praline -Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique. Shopkeeper - Oh yes, the, the Norwegian Blue. What's wrong with it? Praline -I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it! Shopkeeper - No, no, it's resting, look! Praline -Look my lad, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. Shopkeeper - No no sir. it's not dead. It's resting! Praline -Resting? Shopkeeper - Yeah, remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, beautiful plumage, innit? Praline -The plumage don't enter into it - it's stone dead. Shopkeeper - No, no - it's just resting! Praline -All right then, if it's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouts into cage) Hello Polly! I've got a nice cuttlefish for you when you wake up, Polly Parrot! Shopkeeper - (jogging the cage) There, it moved! Praline -No, he didn't. That was you pushing the cage! Shopkeeper - I did not. Praline -Yes, you did! (takes parrot out of cage, shouts) Hello Polly, Polly (bangs it against the counter) Polly Parrot, wake up. Polly. (throws it in the air and lets it fall to the floor) Now that's what I call a dead parrot. Shopkeeper -No, no. It's stunned. Praline -Look my lad, I've had just about enough of this. That parrot is definitely deceased. And when I bought it not half an hour ago, you assured me that its lack of movement was due to it being tired and shagged out after a long squawk. Shopkeeper -It's probably pining for the fjords. Praline -Pining for the fjords, what kind of talk is that? Look, why did it fall flat on its back the moment I got it home? Shopkeeper -The Norwegian Blue prefers kipping on it's back! Beautiful bird, lovely plumage! Praline -Look, I took the liberty of examining that parrot, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been nailed there. Shopkeeper - Well of course it was nailed there. Otherwise it would muscle up to those bars and voom. Praline -Look matey (picks up the parrot) this parrot wouldn't voom if you put four thousand volts through it! It's bleedin' demised! Shopkeeper It's not, it's pining! Praline -It's not pining, it's passed on. This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker.This is a late parrot. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it would be pushing up the daisies. It's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-parrot.	Winston001 (3612)
329517	2005-03-07 08:07:00	Excellent Tony. Where do you find this stuff? Here is one interesting place :- http://www.crank.net/ But if you go to Google with "Biblical astronomy" you will find heaps. Cheers T	TonyF (246)
329518	2005-03-07 19:21:00	Don't wish to argue 001 but is that your best argument??? tinyurl.com	Cicero (40)
329519	2005-03-08 09:36:00	Not only is the Earth flat, but it is stationary !! Have a look at www.fixedearth.com Most part of fixedearth is tied to religion belief, as such, I am not completely convince that the earth is darn flat and wouldn't rotate. As such, half-way through reading that website, I press Alt+F4. No offense and sorry for those who felt offended. Come on people, if the earth is not rotating, then perhaps the sun is rotating around us and that earth is the center of the Universe? Get real, people. Get back to reality. (Of course, sometimes we have to be wild in thinking and think the unimaginable like teleportation but not untiil the extend of thinking our very own earth is not moving...). If the earth if stationary and not rotating, I don't believe that our magnetic compass will work, I don't think that we are able to send Cassini-Huygens to what-is-the-planet-again. Cheers and thanks for keeping this thread well-fed and alive. :)	Renmoo (66)
329520	2005-03-08 09:53:00	Easy now, James !! The Fixed Earth site is no more odd than the dozens of others relevant to this thread. Your reality may be quite different from others on the Forum. Now, it is clear that many folk are sure that the Crop Circles are not made by hoaxers, and by something else... Any views, anyone ??? CU in a field somewhere....	TonyF (246)
329521	2005-03-08 17:33:00	Okay, now it seems that we have branched out from our Teleportation / Time travelling thread, investigating hoaxes and other planets. Could someone please summarise what do we know and what have we covered so far? Thanks guys on your effort in keeping up this thread! :)	Renmoo (66)
329522	2005-03-10 16:45:00	Now I some sort of get it, e=mc2, if we can travel at the speed of light multiply speed of light, which we would never be able to do so, we would turn into energy. Energy and death both are closely related. We you die, your body decompose and release all the "nutrients". Now, that applies to if we travel at c*c. What if we manage to travel at speed of light? Will we turn into energy? One more confirmatory fact question, earth does not affect the flowing of time, does it?	Renmoo (66)
329523	2005-03-10 19:08:00	Forget matters of life and death, that is organic! Lets stick to physics, and let us assume the 'laws' of physics exist independently of whether we exist or not. Back in the earlier days of particle physics there was a big piece of apparatus called a Cyclotron. There was one at Birmingham University that I saw in the early 1950s. This could accelerate electrons in a huge circle in a vacuum by means of magnetic fields and and applied switched electric fields. Then there was an exit passage that fired the high speed electrons out to bombard selected targets and observe the effects and other particles blown out from the target atoms. Now as the electrons got up to about 0.9 the speed of light, or there abouts, they started to get heavier, as predicted by Special Relativity, the energy required to accelerate them started to rise steeply. There was a later development the Synchrotron that overcame some of the limitations of the Cyclotron, but still, the effects of increasing mass, and increased energy to accelerate the electrons demonstrated the predictions of Relativity that the speed of light cannot be reached by particles having mass. The rotation of the earth I repeat for the nth time has nothing to do with the passage of time, except that it was used as a time keeper, a clock if you like. And our perceived passage of time is indeed based on the period of rotation of the earth. The 'laws' of physics would not change if the Earth and ourselves did not exist :D I say 'laws' because that is a common phrase. These laws are built on successive generations of observations of the Universe. They are not invented in the mind, or by mathematics. Mathematics is the tool by which we can quantise, manipulate parameters, hypothesise, postulate something that could happen, etc and it gives us a means on ordering the physical observations.	Terry Porritt (14)
329524	2005-03-11 01:14:00	If it were possible to go forward in time,would we not nip forward say 100 years,nip back and look quite good on this forum,even tell Ninja a thing or two,thus far I haven't seen any evidence of this kind of activity!! So,that being the case,we talk and theorise as much as we like,but we ain't going to do any time travel this week!.	Cicero (40)
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