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Thread ID: 54999 2005-02-28 07:10:00 Bill Gates ain't so bad, at least in this instance Strommer (42) PC World Chat
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328977 2005-03-01 20:03:00 .. No, because my kids want to play games and do homework on Office products which isn't possible on Linux. So in a fashion the schools and entertainment are dictating what OS we need to use.
Can see where you are at re: schools.
It was my niece being put on a back-foot in competing for best display promoting an event on a poster, when most kids had computers to help them, but she didn't. Instances like this were the reason behind her family getting a computer which is so unfair.

I'm not a parent, which is just as well as I would not be able to hold back in any school conflicts. My sister-in-law in the above mentioned incident was quite pleased I didn't have any children at that school as she knew that all Hell would break out. Still simmering over my fishing rod which I lent my nephew[experienced in fishing] on a school camp. Teacher made him share it with other children, even though I gave him explicit warnings not to let anyone else use it.
Well, now noone can use it. Completely stuffed. :horrified:
MMM (5660)
328978 2005-03-01 22:28:00 Linux cannot be a monopoly... it is governed by the GPL/GNU so it is everybodys and unable to be sold for profit by a single entity...

All they can do is sell support and documentation.
All I (hamstarsdld.tripod.com) can do is sell the service of copying and posting.

As for people who are wealthy being dirty rotten cheaters, and so must be hated... look at that Gibbs guy who lives up by me, huge block of land, a tesla coil, Hummer H2, huge art sculptures.... all from designing the aquada and related technologies... why is he not hated?

Microsoft is an immoral, predatory company that releases incomplete software... and the people behind it? Bill Gates and that swarmy Steve Ballmer...

They should spend, hmmm... half their life in hell for the pain they've caused us, and the pain they've caused innovation in the IT market... but, the other half... well they did give us linux... :D

So really they deserve to be hated... they are dicks.. but without them Linus would not have taken Minix and turned it into Linux...

What would Linus do?
hamstar (4)
328979 2005-03-02 01:02:00 Somebody loves the man . . . . . . . .
Microsoft co-founder and chairman Bill Gates will be awarded an honorary knighthood by Britain's Queen Elizabeth on Wednesday for his outstanding contribution to enterprise .

Gates, the world's wealthiest man, will receive the award from the Queen at Buckingham Palace .

He will become a Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, an honour that dates back to 1917, although monarchs have been creating knights for hundreds of years .

Among the pomp and grandeur of the formal state rooms at the palace, Gates will kneel in front of the sovereign, who will gently tap him on the shoulder with a sword . :rolleyes:
Scouse (83)
328980 2005-03-02 05:30:00 I'm not a parent, which is just as well as I would not be able to hold back in any school conflicts. My sister-in-law in the above mentioned incident was quite pleased I didn't have any children at that school as she knew that all Hell would break out. Still simmering over my fishing rod which I lent my nephew[experienced in fishing] on a school camp. Teacher made him share it with other children, even though I gave him explicit warnings not to let anyone else use it.
Well, now noone can use it. Completely stuffed. :horrified:

Which is why any parent knows never to send anything to school or on camp that you can't stand being damaged or lost.
We have a blanket policy, no jewellry, no cellphones, no game or audio devices, no $300 shoes, no rayban sunglasses etc. Not because they are into leveling the playing field or some communist inspired doctrine, simply to avoid the hassles generated by parents over lost/stolen damaged gear.
Sort of a uniform code of blandness :)
the highlander (245)
328981 2005-03-02 05:39:00 Somebody loves the man........

Among the pomp and grandeur of the formal state rooms at the palace, Gates will kneel in front of the sovereign, who will gently tap him on the shoulder with a sword. :rolleyes:


Bet Hamstar hopes the sword slips... :D
BoboTheClown (5652)
328982 2005-03-03 20:17:00 Now John H is really going to be ticked off :eek: when he reads the article below!

As the 'starter' of this thread, I'll divulge my reason for posting: to see how people would react to generosity attributed to a man loathed by so many. Metla scored some good :thumbs: points, imho. But as a long time 'student' of psychology, I wondered how deeply people hated Bill Gates, and those like John H shows just how deep it goes. The question is WHY? And my answer is that computing is such a personal experience, so much so that when problems arise, people take it like an attack or an affront. We don't have to go back too far for the blue screen days of Win95, or more recently, the problems with WinXP SP2. When these frustrations happen, to some it must be like a slap in the face... and where does the anger get directed? :badpc: Yep, we could trash the PC, but it is so much easier to trash Billy Boy. That is how I see it, anyhow. But of course the MS monopoly thing is very real, and to be despised. Knight he may be, but I don't see him as a lilly white knight.

Microsoft's Bill Gates bestowed with knighthood - update 1

Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:32:38 PM ET
newratings.com

LONDON, March 3 (newratings.com) – Britain’s Queen Elizabeth III on Wednesday bestowed an honourary knighthood on Bill Gates, the software architect and chairman of Microsoft Corp (MSFT.NAS), in a private ceremony held at the Buckingham Palace.

Britain’s foreign office said that the award recognizes Gates’ contribution to improving health and reducing poverty in the developing world. Gates’ contribution to enterprise, education, employment and the voluntary sector in the UK was also appreciated. "I am humbled and delighted. I am particularly pleased that this honour helps recognise the real heroes our foundation supports to improve health in poor countries," said Gates. Although Gates is not entitled to use the "Sir" before his name since he is American, he can put the initials ''KBE'' (Knight Commander of the British Empire) after his name. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, having a fund base of $28 billion, works for causes, such as vaccination programmes and preventing the HIV virus from spreading, across the globe.
Strommer (42)
328983 2005-03-04 03:27:00 (snip)But as a long time 'student' of psychology, I wondered how deeply people hated Bill Gates, and those like John H shows just how deep it goes . (snip)

Arrrgggghhhhhh, I give up . I have no idea why my point cannot be understood, so there seems little point in reiterating it . My point has nothing to do with hating Gates as a person, or even Microsoft as corporation come to that . I am entirely indifferent to Gates, but not to what he represents because he is just one in a loooonnnngggg line .

My argument is simply that people should not get sucked in by Rich Man's philanthropy (as the original post suggested they should) . I simply asked people to use their analytical skills and look behind external appearances . But that must be too difficult for some; it is obviously easier to have heroes and it seems too uncomfortable to think that the Rich Man may simply be saving tax, trying to buy a place in Heaven, easing their conscience etc . . . I give up .

But don't try amateur psychology on me and attribute motives to me that do not exist .
John H (8)
328984 2005-03-04 04:06:00 Can you imagine the tax breaks he would get from giving to charity...?

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
328985 2005-03-05 21:18:00 John, as Murray says above: "Ouch" . It sure came across as hate, or a similar emotion . After all, I ended my post with "Now admit it, you don't hate him so much . Do you?" - and you came back Full Throttle . But thanks for clarifying things . I can see (and have done so before) your points .

I guess it may be a matter of perception, i . e . , does a person appreciate the beauty of a rose, or complains about the thorns? One can see the thorns, know that they are there, but still value the beauty .
Strommer (42)
328986 2005-03-06 07:16:00 Does a person appreciate the beauty of a rose, or complain about the thorns? One can see the thorns, know that they are there, but still value the beauty .

Amen .
Winston001 (3612)
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