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Thread ID: 55082 2005-03-02 06:29:00 How much do you spend on petrol a week? manicminer (4219) PC World Chat
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329730 2005-03-02 19:00:00 We get these exorbitant tax's because this crowd like to spend our money for us,hence nanny state.The recipients of our largess like it of course and we know who they will vote for.
You will note that they keep upping the number of beneficiaries using what ever technique necessary to keep there own noses in the trough.
Cicero (40)
329731 2005-03-02 19:13:00 Well, I reckon we should take a page from the book of Sweden. agent (30)
329732 2005-03-02 19:30:00 Well, I reckon we should take a page from the book of Sweden.


Which is???????????
paulw (1826)
329733 2005-03-02 19:36:00 Well, I reckon we should take a page from the book of Sweden.
Those that have a penchant for relying on others would.
Take a look at Sweden of late and see the probs they are having.
Cicero (40)
329734 2005-03-02 21:09:00 Now I'm left with 2 questions:
1. Why is diesel so much more expensive there in comparison with petrol?
Diesel for our ute is far cheaper than petrol for the car. Is that because we have to buy diesel mileage, so officialdom gets an extra take that way? I await enlightenment...

In the UK, the tax is gathered at the pump. That way there is no way of avoiding it - No mileage sticker, forged mileage stickers etc). For off road use (farms/construction sites/fixed cranes etc) there is a special type of diesel (commonly known as "Pink Diesel") which has a red dye added to it and is available only for use in non-road-using machinery, and is not taxed, so is considerably cheaper. Customs and Excise officials are fully empowered to stop diesel vehicles on the road and test the fuel in the vehicles. It is an offence to use "Pink Diesel" on the roads.

I'd say it's debatable which method of taxing diesel (or not taxing) is the more workable and efficient.
Miami Steve (2128)
329735 2005-03-02 21:15:00 In the UK, the tax is gathered at the pump. That way there is no way of avoiding it - No mileage sticker, forged mileage stickers etc). For off road use (farms/construction sites/fixed cranes etc) there is a special type of diesel (commonly known as "Pink Diesel") which has a red dye added to it and is available only for use in non-road-using machinery, and is not taxed, so is considerably cheaper. Customs and Excise officials are fully empowered to stop diesel vehicles on the road and test the fuel in the vehicles. It is an offence to use "Pink Diesel" on the roads.

I'd say it's debatable which method of taxing diesel (or not taxing) is the more workable and efficient.
Doing it this way keeps about 300 civil servants in a job and makes the politicians feel that much more important.They do like an empire,you see.
Cicero (40)
329736 2005-03-03 00:30:00 For anyone who really cares-



2. (This one's for user, who started this) Why do you say the pound has about the same spending power in Britain as the dollar has here? Surely that makes a mockery of the official exchange rate? I know certain items will be relevantly dearer/cheaper in different countries, but if one of their pounds is officially worth 2.6 times our dollar - yet only the same in spending power - somebody's being well & truly short-changed...
Like to elaborate further, user?


Sure. You can't compare how much it would cost a NZer to buy petrol in Britain with NZ dollars, only how much it is in relation to what they earn. If you work in Britain, then the relative cost of items is similar to that in NZ (exceptions obviously according to local markets).
When I was in Britain, a pint of beer cost 3-4 pounds. If I bought it in NZ, it would be similar in dollar terms.
The exchange rate is only valid if you take your NZ dollars over to Britain and spend them there. Compare apples with apples only. Cost of living in Britain is similar to cost of living here. HTH.
user (1404)
329737 2005-03-03 00:39:00 Diesel is cheaper because its a less refined product and because the tax is paid seperatly, the tax is calculated on vechicle weight ( in regard to how much damage it does to the road) which is why its not charged at the pump.

Fuel card discounts are dependent on how much you use and all fuel suppliers in NZ provide them, Don't expect to get one for filling up the Commodre once a fortnight though.

Diesel coloured with Dye is common enough in NZ as well, Some companies dye it to track if anyone steals it, and if i remember correctly Marine diesel is coloured, due to it being supplied outside of the road user charges spectum....
Powerslave (7265)
329738 2005-03-03 01:18:00 Of course this extra road tax is to build better roads into Auckland, at the expense of the rest of NZ . What the drivers will do with the cars once they have got them into Auckland faster is another matter .

London got the right idea, a congestion charge . It didn't cause the end of civilisation as was confidently predicted .

Let the buggers walk . ;)
Graham L (2)
329739 2005-03-03 01:31:00 For Laura,
What User is saying about the UK comparisons is largely correct.
In NZ Dollar terms the poms are paid about 2.5 to 2.7 times they would be in New Zealand.

Of course you will always find exceptions to this, both ways!
bonzo29 (2348)
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