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Thread ID: 54999	2005-02-28 07:10:00	Bill Gates ain't so bad, at least in this instance	Strommer (42)	PC World Chat

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328967	2005-03-01 03:26:00	perhaps because making people into role models purely because they are rich is amazingly shallow? Ooooohhhh cutting. :help: Be fair Metla. We don't have time or space here for a proper debate. And don't you admire Donald Trump? I'll bet you are glued to The Apprentice. :yuck: :yuck: :yuck:	Winston001 (3612)
328968	2005-03-01 03:31:00	who? muhahahahaha. :rolleyes:	Metla (12)
328969	2005-03-01 03:45:00	Thanks for the illustrating my point John. See above. ;) Judging by your comment Winston, law school must have gone off in terms of teaching analytical skills since I graduated way back when! ;) Read what I said again without trying so hard to push the TPS barrow and you will see that it has nothing to do with envy or denigration of success. What I am arguing in the above posts is to keep an open mind about what is REALLY happening here with Billy's largesse, rather than adulation because he deigns to reduce his taxes by indulging himself in charitable works. Look behind the facade, rather than taking things at face value. Don't they train lawyers to do that any more? Do they only train them to use simple slogans like TPS? Oh well, I think you and I might have a different set of values in terms of how success should be measured in any event. You beg the question about whether I consider the man to be a Tall Poppy! :rolleyes:	John H (8)
328970	2005-03-01 04:30:00	Perhaps I was a little unkind John. In fact I found your post interesting and you'd be suprised at my real views. But I like being a devils advocate and challenging established beliefs. I don't disagree with everything you say.	Winston001 (3612)
328971	2005-03-01 04:47:00	Thank you Winston. Can't have all Mainlanders agreeing can we? Might make the off shore islanders nervous! :thumbs:	John H (8)
328972	2005-03-01 05:47:00	Gates isn't rich for nothing, he is clever . His tactic is to get his product into the US schools, which is presently dominated by Apple . It's all about pshycology, get the kids at school to use your product and you have them hooked for life . Examples are to be seen on this same message board of M$ users who won't use Linux because it's foreign to them . Man inherently prefers their comfort zone and resists change, so once hooked on M$ Bill is guarranteed of the loyalty to his product by a large portion of the population for life . So how do we get Linux into the schools??? :lol:	BoboTheClown (5652)
328973	2005-03-01 05:58:00	Nature abbhors a vacumn. Should Bill Gates/ Microsoft cease to exist there would of course be linux to take up the slack. Some visionary would create a version of linux that was user friendly, intutitive and compatible with every piece of hardware out there with the need to use arcane and cryptic commands that start with k. It would become propriatry. The price would increase accordingly, a monoply would eventuate. The King is dead Long live the King	the highlander (245)
328974	2005-03-01 06:12:00	Interesting points Murray . I consider that TPS exists as part of Kiwi culture and at all levels . There seems to be an envious grudging mentality in our society whereby we knock and criticise anyone who does better than average . This becomes vehement when money or wealth is involved . If a person has money, they must have cheated or been rotten . Contrast this view with optimistic societies such as Australia, India, and the USA . There, succesful people (in the financial sense) are admired and held up as role models . But not in New Zealand . Why is that? Why is it 001, well I'm sure you could say that we are a lost cause as a society (I hesitate to say culture because it makes me cringe :rolleyes: ), that we are too provincial in our outlook, haven't managed to eradicate our subservient/lacky/navey/sweat house/poor house/criminal roots, can't shrug off the guilt of pinching someone elses lands, haven't been able to overcome our prior status regards Britain and Australia, lack understanding of world issues and don't really care although we believe we do, are small minded and lack vision . In other words, we're just a bunch of inward looking, petty minded sociopaths with little mans disease . Then again you could say we are well travelled and worldly wise with a deep understanding of what makes the world tick and therefore an inate sense of injustice, of what doesn't make it tick (sustainably for all) and for which we're not afraid to poke our heads up a little higher to be heard above the babble of the opologists, to defend our vision of a better world for all . Enough of this rot, I have to put the bangers on the BBQ .	Murray P (44)
328975	2005-03-01 17:43:00	Examples are to be seen on this same message board of M$ users who won't use Linux because it's foreign to them . Man inherently prefers their comfort zone and resists change, so once hooked on M$ Bill is guarranteed of the loyalty to his product by a large portion of the population for life . So how do we get Linux into the schools??? :lol: Metla's post re: his experience shows why in a way . After reading some posts here of people who try, and often succeed in getting it to work, then have probs with drivers etc . This link shows a way which could get linux into schools courtesy of Bill Gates should he be interested . . . Quote from following link The idea here would be to cut the driver layer out of Windows and attach it to Linux directly . This would become MS-Linux . If Microsoft actually produced an MS-Linux that was the standard Linux attached to the driver layer of Windows, giving users full Plug and Play (PnP) support of all their peripherals, nobody would buy any other Linux on the market . here ( . pcmag . com/article2/0,1759,1768170,00 . asp" target="_blank">www . pcmag . com) MS was in the homes before the schools, kids learn on their parents computer OS choices, so convince/convert the parents . Linux in schools will be a natural progression from there . Maybe in a way it is a reaction to Bill Gates so-called despised methods that Linux was actually brought into being . Everything has its time, Linux will get there . But at the moment, my views on Linux come from reading threads on PF1 forum, and nothing here has given me a reason to even trial it . It is not because I don't want to leave my comfort zone nor from laziness . I try out many types of browsers, photo editors, messenger/chat programs, etc . ending up with a personal preference . May not be the best, but it's what I want to use . Don't care who created the programs, just that it does what I want it to do .	MMM (5660)
328976	2005-03-01 18:37:00	Metla's post re: his experience shows why in a way. After reading some posts here of people who try, and often succeed in getting it to work, then have probs with drivers etc. But at the moment, my views on Linux come from reading threads on PF1 forum, and nothing here has given me a reason to even trial it. It is not because I don't want to leave my comfort zone nor from laziness. I try out many types of browsers, photo editors, messenger/chat programs, etc. ending up with a personal preference. May not be the best, but it's what I want to use. Don't care who created the programs, just that it does what I want it to do. I don't dispute it that Linux isn't quite there yet with drivers. But it wasn't long ago that M$ had the same issues, but we all put up with it and learned how to deal with it. As an end user system M$ is good, I use it myself at home, but there are issues which annoys me to no end like viruses and security (trojan diallers etc). Is it enough for me to switch to Linux? No, because my kids want to play games and do homework on Office products which isn't possible on Linux. So in a fashion the schools and entertainment are dictating what OS we need to use.	BoboTheClown (5652)
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