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Thread ID: 87584	2008-02-27 00:58:00	Thunderbirds are spammed!	Adrain (12668)	Press F1

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643946	2008-02-27 00:58:00	Hi all! I use Thunderbird for my email and in general it's great. Just recently, however, I've been finding a lot of emails in the 'Deleted' box with [SPAM] added to the beginning of the subject line, BUT they are from very well known people to me which are actually IN my eddress book AND some even have filters to place them in their very own box (mother's, father's, sister's, best mate etc)!!!??? Can any one point me in the right direction to get them off the 'spam' list? Regards, PS I use AVG Antivirus (free version) to scan emails, if that helps!	Adrain (12668)
643947	2008-02-27 02:46:00	Adrain, Who is your ISP i.e. where do you get the mail from? Have you asked their help desk about [SPAM] tag? [SPAM] is often a tag added by Spam Assassin, but that doesn't explain why they go straight to your Deleted folder. Check all of your filters to see if any of them are set to "move to trash". Switch them off until you've sorted out the cause of problem. Maybe you been too strict in filtering for 'good' mail?	coldot (6847)
643948	2008-02-27 04:06:00	Sounds like Thunderbird is helpfully moving stuff thats already being marked as SPAM. You probably set it up to do that - its noting the [SPAM], rather than the fact they are people in your address book	pctek (84)
643949	2008-02-28 01:06:00	My ISP, coldot, is Virgin. It's cable and is supposed to be up to 4MB. My email is from Orcon (er, x2 accounts), Vodafone, Google and (of course) Virgin. Spam Assassin does 'ring a bell', but is not loaded, unless it's not named Spam Assassin in the 'Add/Remove programs' section! I'll do the 'filter check' over the weekend as I'm on late shift and will be checking the inside of my eyelids in a mo! :) My only thought is that it doesn't seem to be from any one email and seems a little 'random'. But they are all out to get me, so..... :D :p pctek, where would I have set up to add [SPAM] to the subject line in Thunderbird? Curiously, that also 'rings a bell' (wondered what that ringing in my ears was!) but I'm thinking that I would have done that when I first started using Thunderbird ages ago! Oo at least before the weekend! LOL Maybe a few years ago!!! Unless I 'trawl' through every setting, not sure I'll find it off the top of my head!	Adrain (12668)
643950	2008-02-28 18:29:00	Try looking in Tools -> Account Settings -> Junk Settings. There's a tick box "Trust junk mail headers set by:" option, with SpamAssassin top of the list :)	davehartley (3487)
643951	2008-02-28 20:20:00	Had a sleep and it appears that my filters are, er, fine bar one. And that is a filter that sends any email that has 'spam' in the 'Subject' gets sent to the Deleted folder! But I guess that begs the question of what changes/adds 'spam' to the subject line? Which leads me on to davehartley! Hi! I had a look (Tools -> Account Settings -> Junk Settings) and basically it seems that I have "Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account", "Do not mark mail as junk if the sender is in:" (and Personal Address Book is chosen) ARE ticked, but "Trust junk mail headers set by:" (and SpamAssassin is showing) is NOT ticked! On any accounts at all! Could it be that SpamAssassin/SpamPal has been installed via another program (ie untick here if you DON't want to install SA/SP)? But is it known as something else in 'Add?remove programs?? Many regards!	Adrain (12668)
643952	2008-02-29 03:14:00	Looking at it from another angle ( not Spam Assassin), have you analysed whether the problem emails all come from people with the same ISP? I ask because I had such problem myself once (a corrupted address in genuine spam I'd blocked, as it turned out ) and it affected everything which came via xtra - though admittedly they weren't in Deleted Items, just didn't appear.	Laura (43)
643953	2008-02-29 23:31:00	Hmm! Well Laura, can't say I've taken ANY notice of that! Will keep track for the future, but I suspect not, as from memory it seems to be random. So I'm thinking that I've not noticed any 'pattern' in the past (one person getting 'bumped' ALL the time) but didn't actually think to look at THEIR ISP! Will keep an eye on that for a while, ta!	Adrain (12668)
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