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| Thread ID: 55702 | 2005-03-17 07:25:00 | Computers at under 5's centres. | beetle (243) | PC World Chat |
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| 335104 | 2005-03-26 00:21:00 | LOL it was a joke . . . . . . . . . . . . ???? maybe its a beetle moment . . . ya had to be there i spose I see its gonna be a long day . W001 I see is a person who can quote volumes of info, and has in the past, so im sure he'll have a laugh . . . :( duh day . . . . for me beetle Ahhh, sorry Beet, wasn't really having a crack, I think?, just taken a grumpy pill to get me in the mood for writing up some stuff for a client on Good Friday . Don't ya just love getting lots of notice :groan: Yes Laura, 001 put it much more eloquently than I, as you did for that matter . I think I'd better go back over yesterdays work, I feel a re-write coming on :yuck: |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 335105 | 2005-03-26 01:10:00 | The kneejerk reaction from most of you naysayers is believing that once a computer is introduced then all other inter-action is somehow removed from the childs life. You think the kids are all in the sandpit at the same time?,all at the computer at the same time? As for the other bollocks of sight and sound ,even childrens TV does its best to teach,stimualte and entertain, Childrens software does the same, Reader Rabbit can't be used without putting the brain into gear. Its adults TV and to a lesser extent software that takes the position that the viewers head is mush and ready to absorb any lard as long as it takes no effort..... |
Metla (12) | ||
| 335106 | 2005-03-26 01:57:00 | Ok i can see that this has opened a small can of worms . . . . . I can see from a teachers point of veiw why to integrate them into the system, as they will have access to them at primary and most probably secondary and if lucky some have them at home . Computers have the sit and blob type attitude from some people . You have to look at the bigger picture, comps are not just games, on the macs at kindy i am at, they do maths, (matching pairs, counting etc) they do science (learning about animals and the environment) and games . . . . . covers all the above thoughts . they get to sit and become solitary in there play, they get to also interact when its a group time, all sharing the time and the game, verbal interaction at this stage is often high, and the occasionaly physical action if you get my meaning . but more often than not this does not require any great movement or added brain thoughts than what is shown to be needed on the screen . while a sandpit has great capabilities . The mental, physical, and social aspects of a sandpit are enormous . The imaginary play aspect is limitless, trucks, roads, and dams initially come to mind, add some cooking utensils, or plastic food and you have a resturant, house, or just a kitchen, add some plastic toys - dinasours and you have a prehistoric jungle . shells, pumice, and driftwood - the beach or cnstruction site . add water and you get to make lava from the moutain, concrete from the pipe, tubing etc . sharing, reciprocal interactions, language extension is enormous . physical actions on hand eye coordination is good, leg and arm movement, finger coordination as well . so yes sand pit will win hands down for better useage, extending of play, but in todays world if we sheild the children from technology who is benefiting them or us? If we can supply them with items that in the future has the possiblitity of being an everyday occurance, items that may be in every house or work or school then do we have the right to stop them from accessing it? You will find not every child is interested in comps! and some would love to sit there all the time, but as said previously, no child have i seen, or heard of stays in front of the comp an unhealthy amount of time, teacher monitor and watch the amont of time a child is infront of them . they are not neglected and left to their own devices . We each learn things at a different pace to each other, some children pick up things fast and get bored, others take a long time and then get irritated by it . let them make the choice, i personally think a child will only spend so much time in front of one, when there are a great many other activities available . thanxs all :) beetle |
beetle (243) | ||
| 335107 | 2005-03-26 02:02:00 | Wow. Beetles an expert :D , That course must be good. I'll go along with everything she just said...... |
Metla (12) | ||
| 335108 | 2005-03-26 02:15:00 | Hi Beetle. Very good. That reads like a rough draft of a term paper. Let us know how the finished product is graded. Glad we could all help. :rolleyes: | Scouse (83) | ||
| 335109 | 2005-03-26 02:23:00 | LOL Scary stuff . . . . . sounding like a teacher!!!!!!!!! :eek: Thanxs Guys . Ethically it is neither right or wrong for us to say yes / no to comps in a centre . We have to look at the best interests of the child, not the adults hang ups or perceptions . But if we dont have them, they miss the learning opportunities . if we do have them, they get monitored, and dont become comp blobs . And we need to look ahead for them, what we teach, show, learn today helps mold them, and this also creates what they will be like as an adult . Good bad or otherwise . Dont we want the best for our children? Lecture over . . . :p beetle |
beetle (243) | ||
| 335110 | 2005-03-28 11:29:00 | Yesterday (perhaps Saturday?) on the evening TV news, the detrimental effect of computers in schools and at home was featured as the result of international research . I think this article relates: COMPUTERS have replaced the blackboard in today’s classroom but new research shows that more technology in schools can have a detrimental effect on education - and computers at home could also harm learning . Although the study found that children who used computers very little fared worse than those who used them a "moderate" amount, it crucially revealed that very frequent use of computers forces performance back down again . With governments keen to increase the number of computers in classrooms, and even cereal packets offering vouchers towards computers for schools, the findings will cause alarm among those who advocate teaching through greater use of technology . See full article at: . scotsman . com/education . cfm?id=301892005" target="_blank">news . scotsman . com |
Strommer (42) | ||
| 335111 | 2005-03-28 11:46:00 | Having sat back quietly while this thread developed, may I observe disquiet with the theme that all young classes NEED pcs. We are discussing this in a forum of computer enthusiasts, so maybe the views are a bit skewed. I'm a bit with Laura on this - a gifted teacher in front of a blackboard will lead kids via books and all those other things towards learning for the rest of their lives. Go to your local library - kids use the PCs to find out about books which they then study. I think PCs for under fives is a nonsense, as it will be in 20 years time when our technology will be laughed at. Now to get back under my stone ... Cheers TonyF |
TonyF (246) | ||
| 335112 | 2005-03-29 10:42:00 | Go Tony. :thumbs: We Luddites rejoice. :D | Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 335113 | 2005-04-29 09:26:00 | We had a class on this today. Comments for and against were thick and fast, no conclusion was made. reading material was interesting, both for and against, the for was a nz theorist, while the anti comps was very much Americanised. Time will tell i spose. I still think they are ok in moderation in a centre. (time limits for children) LOL Not like us lot eh? beetle |
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