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Thread ID: 55702	2005-03-17 07:25:00	Computers at under 5's centres.	beetle (243)	PC World Chat

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335094	2005-03-24 10:54:00	Yeah where is your link, quote or theorist to match this with W001???????? refrence ya material W001. youll get marked down...:p resubmit may not be possible. speeling and grammmma! :D beetle	beetle (243)
335095	2005-03-24 20:54:00	Ladies and gentlemen, what is a computer going to do to help under 5s? Are they going to start mail merging and integrated databases into websites? Are they going to start word processing their latest project while copying the majority of it from the internet? Are they going overclock the CPU to reach maximum performance potential with minimum outlay in costs? Are they going to install Linux and make the world a better place? No. What are they going to do? They are going to sit there, stare blankly, and maybe complete a part or two of reader rabbit. In my opinion, this doesn't help them at all. They should be spending this time interacting with one another, business networking as such. They could also be doing something useful, in my kindergarten (in Iran) we were taught perspective in drawing, 3D shapes, the finer aspects of certain foods, how to model with plasticene... offtopicrant.end(now);	Growly (6)
335096	2005-03-24 21:18:00	At that age they are going to do nothing but play. Good God it's kindergardens we are talking about. Next thing some of you will want to take their toys away. I would suggest it would do a lot more good to take calculators away from primary school kids. Just make them learn how to reach an answer the way it used to be done.Not by pressing buttons and not having a clue how the answer was arrived at.	JJJJJ (528)
335097	2005-03-24 21:25:00	I think you'll find that games such as Reader Rabbit actually do encourage kids to read. Sure, installing Far Cry isn't going to do anything for them, but get some dedicated kids games on, and they might actually do something for the kids If they entertain kids, teach them something and teach them to use a KB/Mouse, what is so wrong with them? As I said before, if overexposure is a concern, get a program to reboot it every 30 minutes or so (Hey, if it's windows 98, it'll need that reboot ;))	Edward (31)
335098	2005-03-24 23:47:00	My mum is a kindergarten head teacher and this is what she says: We have one computer for the children to use.It isn't on every day but when it is there are rules for it's use eg children use a timer so they are not on it for more than 10 minutes, only 3 children are allowed in the area at a time etc. We have educational games for the children to use and the children have just begun using a digital camera to record their work eg block constructions, moats in the sandpit, games. We help them print the photo and write a story about what they have learnt. I think there is a place for computers in pre schools but that they should just be a small part of the over all program. Also the children should be taught not just how to use the computer for games but other uses and sensible use.	Dannz (1668)
335099	2005-03-25 01:11:00	Yeah where is your link, quote or theorist to match this with W001???????? refrence ya material W001. youll get marked down...:p resubmit may not be possible. speeling and grammmma! :D beetle Check the links posted previoulsy to find research on the educational and social benifit of computers with regard to children (or anyone for that matter). I agree with 001, computers firstly are a tool, for most of us and secondly a recreational vehicle for a leeser ammount of people (business use vs gamers, chat, etc). For children, the use of a computer can only be recreational, IMO, which imparts a very narrow interactive experience to the user. A musical keyboard or truck in a dirt pile has far more value for solitary interaction. For eg, images viewed on a screen are retained and understood far less than something that can be touched and directly manipulated.	Murray P (44)
335100	2005-03-25 02:56:00	LOL it was a joke . . . . . . . . . . . . ???? maybe its a beetle moment . . . ya had to be there i spose I see its gonna be a long day . W001 I see is a person who can quote volumes of info, and has in the past, so im sure he'll have a laugh . . . :( duh day . . . . for me beetle	beetle (243)
335101	2005-03-25 08:21:00	Reader Rabbit corrupted my young brain.	Growly (6)
335102	2005-03-25 08:24:00	Thanks Murray and I knew Beet was pulling my leg . :p TV and computers involve two of the five human senses . Sight and sound . Thats it . Fini . Now consider the common or garden sandpit . Within it, as Murray points out, a child can: (a) touch and feel the texture of the sand (b) taste the sand - yum (c) see the different shapes it is possible to form in the sand, see sparkles from shiny grains (d) smell the difference between wet and dry sand, as well as smell what the cat did (e) hear the sound loose sand makes running through fingers, as compared with the sound wet lumps of sand make But wait - there's more! The child can pour sand down the neck of another child . Build roads, stage dramatic accidents for toys, walk uninvited on other childrens roads, fall down with a minimum of pain, practice drainage and construction skills, the list goes on . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Higher cognitive brain function is not automatic . A child's brain requires exposure to stimulation and as many different experiences as possible . That stimulation works best if it involves as many of the senses as possible . Tempting as it is to let our children vege out on TV, or become addicted to a computer game - and frankly this is tempting when you are busy or tired - we abandon our responsibility to provide the best environment for them .	Winston001 (3612)
335103	2005-03-25 13:50:00	Best post in this thread so far. Winston points out succinctly (enough for me to envy his thought processes) how a sandpit promotes the stimulation of the senses in a young brain. To this I'd add - imagination. (The thing that supposedly puts us apart from animals - though who knows?) So we're talking " Let's pretend." And here the sandpit gives a child the whole world. You build a castle & you're the ruler of a kingdom. You build a house & you decide who lives in it - you only. You make people & they do what you -nobody else - decides. Or you just make a sculpture - or a flat picture - or you write words in the sand. Our future imaginative artists - whether painters, writers, actors, sculptors, dancers or whatever - are going to get more from a sandpit before they're 5 than they ever will from standing around waiting for their turn at a computer - no matter how good the teacher is. Sure, computers are cute. They're also regimented. There's no room for free spirits on a computer. You either get it right or it doesn't work. Imagination doesn't get a look-in. And we're talking about under-5s here... Leave it until later...	Laura (43)
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