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Thread ID: 55965 2005-03-23 22:43:00 I hate banks KiwiTT_NZ (233) PC World Chat
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337353 2005-03-24 05:12:00 When you get on the gravy train,just like 95% of politicians,you dont want to get off.How much they are in cahoots,who knows. Cicero (40)
337354 2005-03-24 05:40:00 Playing with the OCR is all a big con-trick to deceive us into thinking we are a sovereign state with our destiny in our own hands.

The reality is that every man woman and child is in debt to foreigners to the tune of ~ $24,000 per head. Then there is all the rest of industry, and real estate owned by overseas corporations.

We are all mere puppets dancing on the end of strings :rolleyes:
Terry Porritt (14)
337355 2005-03-24 09:30:00 Oh dear oh dear oh dear . :help:

It is perfectly possible to borrow in overseas currency if you want to - not personal loans of course . But the overseas lender is going to want an interest rate just below our local rates - and you take a foreign exchange risk too .

That is the risk return they require to invest in NZ .

I remember businesses and a few farmers borrowing from European and American banks in the early 90s . Then the NZ $ slid downhill and suddenly their loans grew by 10% . The interest was low but oh dear oh dear . . . . . . . . .

It is true banks do debt swops between currencies, and borrow overseas . But do not assume that the interest rate is the same as within the nation doing the lending . There is a risk premium attached to lending to a small country .

Why would any European bank lend to a NZ bank at 2 . 5% when that same European bank can get Government stock at 6% from the NZ Government?

And you cannot have it both ways: either the overseas banks, fundmanagers and investors investing here get the high return, or they go elsewhere . And local banks are not immune from this pressure . They have to pay enough to justify the loan risk .

At present, the $US is weak, and will get weaker still . Our $ only looks strong, but it is helped by our strong economy . Essentially the risk required to get 6% in NZ, rather than 2 . 5% in Germany, is low, so the money flows .

This is a huge and complex topic . I readily confess I get confused myself . One thing I do know is that banks don't make huge sums out of interest . Their profits come from selling insurance, trading debt instruments, and exchange rate trading .
Winston001 (3612)
337356 2005-03-29 00:40:00 Thanks Winston, Learning everyday KiwiTT_NZ (233)
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