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646553	2008-03-05 09:27:00	Apparently the copy available on torrent sites is a leaked copy from Microsoft so it will be a proper Vista DVD with SP1 slipstreamed . And people will trust a pirated/leaked copy off of a torrent site ??? - that could contain anything - and then :crying when their PC goes belly up, esp when its NOT the real thing - hell any one can upload a self made copy and call it the "Real thing" . Personally I wouldn't trust ANY software uploaded to torrent sites - better to wait a day or so for the real and official one . A mate of mine downloaded the so called " Real SP1" from a torrent site - couldn't wait 2 days till I gave him the "Official " one issued to OEM/System builders that I downloaded from MS . The torrent screwed his PC nicely . Being a nice guy I took my sysprep DVD and we reinstalled the OS back over a beer - along with the REAL SP1 - no worries .	wainuitech (129)
646554	2008-03-18 18:18:00	Vista SP1 standalone (five languages) is now out for general availability (www.microsoft.com). It's about 450 MB. It's also available via Windows Update but if not see the KB article Vista SP1 not available via Windows Update (support.microsoft.com). I couldn't because my install is a via vLite.	sal (67)
646555	2008-03-18 20:08:00	Hi Wainuitech Are there any noticable improvements to the OS after after the SP1 update.	Driftwood (5551)
646556	2008-03-18 21:08:00	That's useless. I wouldn't want to buy a whole new windows just so I can have a version that installs with SP1 already there (not that I'd want to buy Vista as I hate it) I'm sure someone will manage it though even if M$ say it's not possible (if they haven't already)	Agent_24 (57)
646557	2008-03-19 01:02:00	Agent, apparently MS need to fix some other broken bits of Vista first before it will be possible and, apparently, they're in no hurry to do so.	Murray P (44)
646558	2008-03-19 01:47:00	Vista? Broken? who would have thought.....	Agent_24 (57)
646559	2008-03-19 01:57:00	The irony is, many haven't and more won't. BTW, what's with the new range of emoticons? The place is starting to look like a cheap whorehouse, not that I have any great experience of cheap whorehouses :rolleyes:	Murray P (44)
646560	2008-03-19 02:26:00	Vista? Broken? who would have thought..... If you are referring to Vista Being Broken and not allowing slipstreaming of SP1- its not - if you go back and read the previous post #9 I added in, you will see the reason it wont slipstream is because of the "servicing layer" - thats by design, not a fault. If you also read post 10 you will see theres a hacked version available - well surprise surprise got a PC here right now - a customer decided he would download the torrent version, use his own COA and its screwed big time - the PC was so unstable its not funny, all it had was the Vista install on it, with SP1 meant to be slipstreamed HA! :groan: , he had a whole heap of viruses on his original install and decided to get this slipstreamed version to "save time" when reinstalling, so he didn't have to manually install SP1 Later. I have wiped his drive, installed the original Vista that he got with the PC, just finished putting in SP1 from the OEM / System Builder site - and it runs real sweet. Currently the PC is doing an image "as is" before any programs are installed so if he needs to redo it, simply load the image SP1 and all.	wainuitech (129)
646561	2008-03-19 02:49:00	Wanui, I believe I have seen written somewhere (not here) that Vista is indeed broken in that respect, or at least not as functional as it could be, but that MS is unwilling to fix it for whatever reason at this juncture . Now there is a possibility that I've got this muddled up with something else that is broken in Vista which has a bearing on installation and updates . Be that as it may, anything that cannot slipstream, or integrate, major updates, by definition is broken is it not?	Murray P (44)
646562	2008-03-19 03:48:00	Now there is a possibility that I've got this muddled up with something else that is broken in Vista which has a bearing on installation and updates . Be that as it may, anything that cannot slipstream, or integrate, major updates, by definition is broken is it not? No it's not - esp if its designed that way . Let me explain - I have downloaded the Official SP1 From the OEM/System Builders web site when it became available - it went in perfectly (5 PC's so far) so it installed as it was meant to, and worked with no visible problems . Any windows updates that come through they all install as they are meant to Via the windows update . Its been well publicized that SP1 is not designed to be slipstreamed and the reason was given . So its not broken if its doing exactly what its designed to do . Now - MANY people have tried to slipstream SP1 and MANY have had failures - so why cry fowl if it wont do what someone wants it to do esp after being told its not designed to ?? BUT theres also the other side - Over the weekend I did install a Vista With SP1 already loaded onto a PC- How you may ask ?? Easy - I had made an original install on a workshop PC, installed the SP1 that I had downloaded, then ran the Vista sysprep/ Win PE , made an image and thats what was used to load a OS with SP1 already installed . On the OEM/system Builder site MS do say how to slipstream SP1 into an existing Image and its the "Offical" way on how to do it I'm A Tease ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/Tease . jpg" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz) :p MS say you cant slipstream it like XP, you are advised to install on a PC, install SP1 manually, then using the WIN PE process make an Image (DVD) and install from that --- BUT there is 1 very important part, there is a exe file that HAS to be run to make sure it works correctly - if you have that it works (did for me anyway) . If you leave that process out it more than likely wont . I also tried without the exe file = :crying The important file is in the System builders OPK Kit . So to sum up - Updates and important fixes can be added in to images, but not the same way as you can with XP . So going by that - its NOT broken, just has to be done differently to XP . Doing something different does not mean the original is broken . Sure there are problems that need to be fixed, but this is not a fault, its designed that way .	wainuitech (129)
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