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Thread ID: 56345	2005-04-02 12:32:00	TEENAGE SUICIDE	Princess (7275)	PC World Chat

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340969	2006-06-21 07:02:00	I think you have that wrong. The ones with guts will get over it. It's the gutless ones that can't handle life and take the easy way out This is a view held by some people but I strongly disagree. It is virtually impossible for a person who has not experienced these feelings to sympathise and understand. Far from being a selfish or cowardly act, suicide is the only logical choice in the mind of the individual. Life is unbearable and they will feel they are doing their family and friends a favour by removing themselves from life. When your own life is valueless - there is no hope or point in continuing - you cannot see any real loss to anyone else.	Winston001 (3612)
340970	2006-06-21 07:27:00	This is a view held by some people but I strongly disagree. It is virtually impossible for a person who has not experienced these feelings to sympathise and understand. Far from being a selfish or cowardly act, suicide is the only logical choice in the mind of the individual. Life is unbearable and they will feel they are doing their family and friends a favour by removing themselves from life. When your own life is valueless - there is no hope or point in continuing - you cannot see any real loss to anyone else. Congradulations Winston, after all this time on the forum and that is the first comment of yours that is bullocks. Been there, and I think a lot of people would have at some stage, just different levels of being there. It is a cop out, no if's but's or maybes	plod (107)
340971	2006-06-21 08:53:00	I got to agree with Winston. I remember a suicide many years ago of a person who had spent most of his life unhappy. People were so sad that he had done this "terrible thing", but he had a life i wouldn't wish on anyone. If he were alive today, he would still be miserable. He did something about it, he stopped his life. I personally believe its about quality not quantity. Ironicly the last month of his life was the best, as he knew it would finally be over soon. One could almost feel the relief, although no-one knew why it was so at the time. Some people talk of suicide as "selfish", but what could be more selfish than wishing a continued living hell on someone who doesn't want to be here just because we see suicide as a bad thing? His choice, his life, and in the end, his death. The only thing sad about it IMHO was that his life wasn't worth living in the first place. People like to think depressed people are just having a bad patch, and that may be true, but for some it's a way of life.	personthingy (1670)
340972	2006-06-21 10:06:00	Some people talk of suicide as "selfish", but what could be more selfish than wishing a continued living hell on someone who doesn't want to be here just because we see suicide as a bad thing? His choice, his life, and in the end, his death. The only thing sad about it IMHO was that his life wasn't worth living in the first place. People like to think depressed people are just having a bad patch, and that may be true, but for some it's a way of life. Well said Personthingy. That doesn't apply to all who choose to clock out, of course, but for some it's the only way out. And for those who geniunely feel that way then no one has the right to call them selfish. Why should they continue to live a sad and miserable life just for other people?	FoxyMX (5)
340973	2006-06-21 10:13:00	Right you are, people have the right to kill themselves, Its their life, its their choice. Though if their parents are still alive they should be forced to sit em down, tell em what they are about to do, Then they will see the damage their actions will do. Other then that, It can't hurt to weed the weak defective useless people from the gene pool.	Metla (12)
340974	2006-06-21 10:28:00	I don't think there is any dought that a suicide will hurt those close to the person who takes themselves out, but part of love for a person is excepting their choice, however hard that may be. Well that's what i believe. I see it in much the same light as not wanting to see the terminally ill drag pain on for years.	personthingy (1670)
340975	2006-06-21 10:33:00	Right you are, people have the right to kill themselves, Its their life, its their choice . Though if their parents are still alive they should be forced to sit em down, tell em what they are about to do, Then they will see the damage their actions will do . Oh, absolutely, if that person still has a lifetime ahead of them as a teenager has . I should have qualified my previous post with the fact that I was referring to someone a lot later in life, not a young person . Someone who has tried to the best of their ability to "cope" with what life has thrown at them and eventually finds it all just too much . Other then that, It can't hurt to weed the weak defective useless people from the gene pool . So those who can no longer cope are weak, defective and useless? I must remember that .	FoxyMX (5)
340976	2006-06-21 10:36:00	Yep, Once a persons mental state has deterioted to the point that they kill themselves they have reached the point of being useless, Their last act is to cripple those that love them the most for the rest of their lives.	Metla (12)
340977	2006-06-21 10:36:00	Though if their parents are still alive they should be forced to sit em down, tell em what they are about to do, Then they will see the damage their actions will do. Though of course that doesnt always work... (at any age...)	Dannz (1668)
340978	2006-06-21 10:38:00	Though of course that doesnt always work... (at any age...) Nope, not garenteed to work, But about the best possible action to either create action or act as a detterent that I can think of.	Metla (12)
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