Forum Home
PC World Chat
Thread ID: 56345	2005-04-02 12:32:00	TEENAGE SUICIDE	Princess (7275)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
340929	2005-04-13 14:05:00	We have a feminist Government...Other then that,after living in both countries I would say Aussie is a far better place then NZ, Pity the place was lacking in family members.... Jokjes aside, Chrisianity/religion doesn't own the "spiritually" market, its a force much bigger and older then that particuler orginisation.	Metla (12)
340930	2005-04-13 20:33:00	Re: Headbanging music... to each his/her own, but... what I am referring to is the very negative, sometimes suicidal lyrics with sounds that can hardly be called music. OK, now I do not want to turn this very worthy thread into a music debate; just want to point out that there is substantial research on how music affects the psyche/emotions/mental health/intellect. On a positive note, 'music therapy' is used to lift people out of slumps, and (yes, really!) a certain piece of Mozart has shown to improve exam marks. Sure, if the music you listen to lifts your spirit, then that is great! It is that horrible stuff which often druggies listen to that can be depressing, negative. But like I said, lets not turn this into a trash-your-music thread (or start a new thread if you wish). BTW, Chill, thank you for posting your reflections above. Deep, meaningful and revealing.	Strommer (42)
340931	2005-04-13 21:35:00	......... just want to point out that there is substantial research on how music affects the psyche/emotions/mental health/intellect. On a positive note, 'music therapy' is used to lift people out of slumps......I see this at some of the gigs i work at.There was a power, a force if you like at "Punkfest 2002" that was well beyond the "yeah we like the bands" factor. I think its something that gets called when enough people fill a room with the right attitude and connection. It may just have something to do with a the amount of people who appear out of the woodwork just for such an event. The most recent time i felt it was at the Esplanade in New Brighton at the 8 foot Sativa gig last month. The was a very powerful positive force in that room which had nothing directly to do with how hard i was running the P.A. system. Music opens up the doors in people, when it happens in mass, it's an awesome experience. :D ---------------------------------------------------- As for the topic, I think suicidal tendency's are far from restricted to those under 20. I know a HUGE amount of people, and not all are well units. Actually i'm VERY suspicious of anyone who frequently claims to be "well". I have one particular friend who gets very touch and go sometimes. She rings me when she can't cope. Trouble is she has inevitably hit the bottle first, so its round in circles we go until shes worn her self out and needs sleep. I'm left just hoping that the sleep she chooses is not a permanent one. She's closer to my age (42) than her teens. Alcohol, like prozac, is another popular drug that does nothing to help people sort their lives out, yet people reach for when they are down. Perhaps it provides some sort of relief, particularly if people black out and can't remember what they did or felt? Its a sad thing when people can't cope and hit the bottle. Perhaps it can be said that people who hit the bottle like that are seeking some kind of temporary suicide? Who knows, buts its all out there, all sorts of people and not all are coping.	personthingy (1670)
340932	2005-04-14 00:31:00	I think Steve_L and Personthingy have some very interesting points. I agree that some of the lyrics "I want to die, I dont want to live, why should I live" can be subconciously harmful to some - Whilst others (in some instances) dont care, or simply cant understand what the artist is saying because they're screaming like I do when I have my nipple ring pulled..... There's also the whole 'mid-life crisis' depression too...... Unique when compared to that 'hopelessness' depression which many teens these days appear to face.	Chilling_Silence (9)
340933	2005-04-14 00:45:00	It goes further then that, Everyones mind works differently and some people can get as much strength out a song expressing distress as other get from a spirited church meeting. They work in much the same way,giving people the knowledge that their are others out their in the same boat,Thats see what they see, For some it can be uplifting and therapudic.There is much strength in music,even if it is uncomprhensible to some. The stuff I dislike is rich white guys singing about misery,suicide,parents for no reason then because its a commercial angle to sell albums to spoilt middle class kids.Which is where most of the unworthy music comes from (im speaking Linkin Park,Korn,Papa Roach) Most (real) metal outside the commercial spectrum has far more positive messages then what the mass media sell to the kids.Its always been about strength,about the importance of one,and that all actions have a reaction.If you deal with the devil.....To celerbrate who you are and what you have. Or just to bang thy head in pure ecstasy.....	Metla (12)
340934	2005-04-14 00:56:00	.................. because they're screaming like I do when I have my nipple ring pulled......Ouch! i never had the guts to get that done, even though i watched a friend of mine get her second nipple piercing done. Ouch ouch ouch... Me gutless! :lol: The stuff I dislike is rich white guys singing about misery,suicide,parents for no reason then because its a commercial angle to sell albums to spoilt middle class kids.Which is where most of the unworthy music comes from (im speaking Linkin Park,Korn,Papa Roach) The stuff i don't like is the idiots who try to be shocking just like the mental media say they should be........................... BORING!!!!! I'm not talking about those that shock for a laugh either, but those who shock because they think it's cool.	personthingy (1670)
340935	2005-04-14 01:32:00	Alcohol, like prozac, is another popular drug that does nothing to help people sort their lives out, yet people reach for when they are down . Although prozac is probably over subscribed, it can be helpful . Your comment about turning the depression around is good, but people that are really depressed find it difficult to do that (ok everyone is different) . Usually people take prescribed drugs along with behavioural therapy to get their life back on track . Life is very stressful these days . Why does everyone rush around trying to cram more and more into the day .	dolby digital (5073)
340936	2005-04-14 04:12:00	I personally enjoyed the rush for a while... Doing so many things was an accomplishment. I can be very self-motivated at times, but not always. I find it difficult to experience rush, and haste a lot of the time. I can work quickly for sure, but having a lot of work doesnt stress me. This is both a good and a bad thing, depending on whos side of the coin you are. I know some love the adrenelaine that comes from being constantly busy... Others simply cannot avoid it.	Chilling_Silence (9)
340937	2005-04-14 05:49:00	I personally enjoyed the rush for a while... Doing so many things was an accomplishment. It can be very self-motivated at times, but not always. Doesnt it depend on what your doing? The buzz that comes from moving a ton of gear from truck to stage and setting the scene for the night is emence and enjoyable, yet the pile of rubbish in my back room has had me overwelmed for 6 months now! whatever squeals the wheels :D	personthingy (1670)
340938	2005-04-15 06:33:00	Depression can be the result of two causes: Chemical - Internal: the brain has insufficent seratonin at various times and mood swings begin . This is a biological function and extremely common . There is no fault involved, and often no simple changes which will make any difference . Thus SSRIs Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors (Prozac, Aropax etc) are prescribed . These are wonder drugs for many millions of depression sufferers who cannot otherwise get a handle on something their brain is doing . Psychiatric - External: experiences during a persons life cause them to become fearful, irrational, gloomy etc . For example, suppressed anger is thought to be at the base of much depression . These two reasons are not cut and dried . They are often combined which is why SSRIs and psychotherapy, counselling etc should be used together . Prozac has had some bad press and there are newer formulations which work better . Prozac can turn an anxious depressed person into someone who feels slightly numb and simply doesn't care . And still commit suicide . But nevertheless it has been of huge benefit to many .	Winston001 (3612)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9