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| Thread ID: 56781 | 2005-04-15 03:44:00 | The Berryman Report and government corruption. | braindead (1685) | PC World Chat |
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| 345015 | 2005-04-22 03:05:00 | Too much talk . Too many weasel words . Not enough accountability . Not enough plain "man on the No . 47 bus" commonsense . Cheers Billy 8-{) "There will be justice in Athens when those who are not injured are as outraged as those who are . " --Demosthenes |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 345016 | 2005-04-22 06:50:00 | Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 345017 | 2005-04-22 08:08:00 | Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice. Exactly what Demosthenes said! Wise men, the ancient Greeks. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 345018 | 2005-04-22 08:36:00 | I have attributed to Alexander Solzhenitsyn: None the less we greeks are no slugs when it comes to wisdom . |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 345019 | 2005-04-22 08:48:00 | Hi Billy. Is this local? Not enough plain "man on the No. 47 bus" commonsense.. When I was a boy the common man was known as "The man on the Clapham Omnibus." :cool: | Scouse (83) | ||
| 345020 | 2005-04-22 09:49:00 | Hi Billy. Is this local? Not enough plain "man on the No. 47 bus" commonsense.. When I was a boy the common man was known as "The man on the Clapham Omnibus." :cool: Yes, it is local I guess. There are many versions, but I believe the original expression was first used in a UK judgment. Google might reveal more, but whatever the version, it expresses both the sentiment and the principle with admirable clarity. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 345021 | 2005-04-22 12:05:00 | Well done Scouse and Billy . Lord Bowen, equated the reasonable man with 'the man on the Clapham omnibus' . Here in New Zealand a rather more recent judge likened the reasonable man to "the man on the Porirua unit . " Sadly the Clapham omnibus no longer runs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A tragic day for forensic metaphor . I might add that although the arguments might seem technical, they are nevertheless valid . Technical in law often means complex . Ie . most people cannot fathom the reasoning without learning a whole screed of other legal concepts . Too hard for me much of the time . :lol: |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 345022 | 2005-04-22 12:12:00 | Not a nice analogy on the judges part,you would be hard put to find much reason in that quarter (Porirua unit). | Cicero (40) | ||
| 345023 | 2005-04-26 08:13:00 | Berryman Petition to Government (www.organonarchitecture.co.nz) now available on the web, for downloading or printing. Thanks for all help and support :) John |
braindead (1685) | ||
| 345024 | 2005-04-29 09:50:00 | the Butcher report can be found at Butcher Report as well as other places... its too late Helen, the truth is out there! now you have to walk the talk... [Edit: URL removed. Please refer to this comment (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz) on posting direct links to this report. Those comments still stand, please respect this - Jen (Moderator) ] |
alanharris (7900) | ||
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