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Thread ID: 56936 2005-04-18 23:30:00 Why is there one rule for Rugby Players and one for ordinary people. KiwiTT_NZ (233) PC World Chat
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346485 2005-04-18 23:30:00 Just in the tea room, you know, coffee time chat, and I heard that a Rugby Player got 12 weeks suspension for purposely stomping

Now if someone stomped on someone in the street, he will be charged with assault.

When I said the above, the other person said it is just "rugby", that is the way it is.

For this reason, I will never fully support rugby, until it operates under the same rules as everyone else.
KiwiTT_NZ (233)
346486 2005-04-19 00:16:00 Now if someone stomped on someone in the street, he will be charged with assault.For goodness sake! If you go tackle someone on the street as well you'd also get charged with assault. So effectively they shouldn't tackle either? So watch touch-rugby instead :) If David Tua went and punched someone in the street he'd probably get charged with murder ;):p or at least assault. The difference here isn't rugby, its sport, and the consent (of sorts) given by opposition players etc. for the abuse to take place.

M.
Midavalo (7253)
346487 2005-04-19 00:24:00 If you go tackle someone on the street as well you'd also get charged with assault.

I know. But a rugby player is not expecting to get stomped on the head, but he is expecting to be tackled, so he is concenting to that. There is a difference.

Remember children watch this and can be influenced by what is seen as acceptable behavior. I suppose we could always put an "PG" rating on rugby.
KiwiTT_NZ (233)
346488 2005-04-19 01:28:00 A race car driver cuts in front & causes a prang - Arrested for dangerous driving?
A Soccer player fouls another & breaks his leg - Charged with grevious bodily harm?
League player speartackles and injures his opposite - Done for assault?
and on and on and on and on..... where do you suggest it stops and why single out rugby...THE GREATEST GAME ON THE PLANET - LEAVE IT ALONE
bartsdadhomer (80)
346489 2005-04-19 01:35:00 hu cares, rugby is the worst sport i would rather watch cricket, and i would rather watch grass grow then watch cricket, or play, or wateva Codex (3761)
346490 2005-04-19 01:42:00 It's intentional violence I am against, not rugby per se. And stomping is intentional in my opinion. KiwiTT_NZ (233)
346491 2005-04-19 02:03:00 The aim is winning. The only sin is in getting caught. Just like business. Graham L (2)
346492 2005-04-19 02:09:00 the rugby players give there consent on what happens on the field, they play at there own risk, if they get legally tackled and hammered, thats their fault that they cant handle the jandle Prescott (11)
346493 2005-04-19 02:18:00 You are quiet correct, the laws governing the person in the street to those governing sports are not the same . As has been pointed out, expectations of conduct in sport, especially contact sports, are different than every day life expectations as to behaviour and physicality in the contest .

The laws of a sport will govern the limits to which the physical contact can be taken as in every day life, the threshold for penalty and the punishment are, however, different, but in line with expecations and the governing laws . Naturally there are limits to what civilised society will accept, gutting oponents with short swords is no longer de rigueur .

While no one in their right mind playing rugby, for instance, would wish to get a boot in the head, they would be naive to expect that it would never happen to them, just as a boxer would expect to take a low blow from time to time . However, as in every day life, they would expect the perpertrator to be punished within the rules and guidlenes of the sport .

If a sports person takes physical contact outside the context of the sport, then they are open to the laws that erveryone else is, plus, usually, further punishment from their sport for bringing it into disrepute with likely impact on earning and carrer in the case of professional sports . I do not see this as perpetuating violence, it actually teaches strict limits to behaviour and responsibility which I see as largely missing for youth from our politically correct education system for example, as it brings peer, public and administrative pressure and censure to bear on miscreants .

If you're worried about your children or sensitive souls being adversely affected by contact sports, use the off button on the idiot box and avoid sporting fields . In the meantime, education in resposibility, self expression and control is a much more worthwhile endeavour in my opinion .
Murray P (44)
346494 2005-04-19 02:40:00 The aim is winning. The only sin is in getting caught. Just like business.

Lol Graham, I'll have to remember to forget that next time I'm delivering a diatribe against big business principles, least I be called a hypocrite (which fits BTW).
Murray P (44)
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