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| Thread ID: 56973 | 2005-04-19 23:56:00 | What Can PC Makers Learn From Apple | Safari (3993) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 346840 | 2005-04-20 01:18:00 | Drivel. Apples closed PCs are jsut to make money. They didn't want you to buy things form other companies. Go open standards! Go open source! |
vinref (6194) | ||
| 346841 | 2005-04-20 01:45:00 | quoteThat's true, but there's a downside to that as well. There's often less choice about which software you can use, sure there may be alternatives for pretty much evey user out there, but it's unsuitable for things like CAD, Architecture and 3D (Got that list from a Mac fan)" cant be a very imformed mac fan, from what i am hearing in the cad industry there is a huge move to the mac with i think 5 out of the top 7 cad programs on the mac.. your mac fan is still in the dark ages |
plod (107) | ||
| 346842 | 2005-04-20 01:46:00 | I'm all for open source software. I suspect that the versions of Linux for Apple hardware have been (1) much easier to get going, and (2) freer from bugs because the hardware is known and predictable because of the closed architecture. What computer hardware manufacturer isn't trying "to make money"? Any exceptions tend to be ex-computer-hardware-manufacturers. Very quickly. Apple prices have probably reduced their market share, and thus their profits. But I bet they spend less per customer on software support than the major supplier of software for the PC architecture. Because the hardware is well defined, they are less likely to get unpredictable problems with hardware their customers add. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 346843 | 2005-04-20 01:55:00 | O.K i have had my apple for about two years now Apart from the high price at purchace time i have spent zero dollars on software, preferring to use open source software(no pirated software) Hardware upgrades has been $165.00 stick of ram From day one i have been editing my home movies burning them to dvd's Playing UT, all without spending any more money Could many pc users say the same for there two year old pc and still keeping up with todays tasks?? |
plod (107) | ||
| 346844 | 2005-04-20 01:58:00 | Plod, Thats just being silly, Monster PC's were available 2 years ago. | Metla (12) | ||
| 346845 | 2005-04-20 02:09:00 | Apple prices have probably reduced their market share, and thus their profits. But I bet they spend less per customer on software support than the major supplier of software for the PC architecture. Because the hardware is well defined, they are less likely to get unpredictable problems with hardware their customers add. Yep, that's the Apple angle - they determine everything from hardware to software. Macs do what they are supposed to do everytime. It doesn't suit everyone - especially me - but they do suit a lot of people because they are already turning over close to a quarter of what Microsoft turns over from more or less a standing start 5 years ago. Much of this is from the iPod of course, but a significant amount is from PCs. And who knows? They have the magic touch at the moment. |
vinref (6194) | ||
| 346846 | 2005-04-20 02:17:00 | Could many pc users say the same for there two year old pc and still keeping up with todays tasks?? Actually, yes. My PC has the same CPU, RAM and video card as when I built it, more than 2 years ago now. I have added more hard drive space, although my original 80GB is by no means off the pace, to help with video editing. I'll admit my GeForce 4 Ti4400 128 is not a bleeding edge gaming card - it wasn't when I bought it either -- but it will still run games perfectly adequately. More importantly, it is fully capable of handling all my other tasks, such as video editing and photo editing. I'm not trying to argue on the quality of Macs, but I don't think this particular assertion with regards to an advantage over a PC holds up. Technology moves on for both platforms and there will always be a point where an upgrade becomes necessary to do a task you consider vital UNLESS those tasks are restricted to very simple things. After all, none of us really need the power of the PCs we have for 70% of the things we do on them. But it is that extra 30% that is the fun stuff. |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 346847 | 2005-04-20 02:32:00 | But Bruce, my point (or one of them) was that the vast majority of PC users don't get to use PCs for fun stuff. They are paid to use the damn things. For boring old things like work. Their employers have the curious idea that that's what the users are there for. They want the computers to continue to operate. And one well-proven way to ensure that is to "weld the lid on". ;) | Graham L (2) | ||
| 346848 | 2005-04-20 02:33:00 | thanks Bruce, I just get the feeling the alot of pc users upgrade for the hell of it(mine's faster then yours senario),but not in your case i see.I brought mine hoping to last 4-5 years unless my usage situation changes i should be okay. | plod (107) | ||
| 346849 | 2005-04-20 02:58:00 | We upgrade because we can. :thumbs: | Metla (12) | ||
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