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| Thread ID: 142317 | 2016-06-09 09:55:00 | Justice? | lakewoodlady (103) | PC World Chat |
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| 1421664 | 2016-06-27 11:18:00 | Ok, the matter is simple.1: the Government interfered by accepting “plea bargaining” in order to reduce their sentence from Murder. I suggest you wouldn’t find a Jury that would find them not “Not Guilty” of Murder and even if you did, it would be up to them to reduce the charge to manslaughter.2: What do you actually have to do to get the maximum sentence for manslaughter?Remember, Manslaughter is Life Imprisonment, not 9 years! Yes, the “Spin Doctors” are using 17 years, but the reality is 9!These pricks got let off with a slap over the wrist with a wet tram ticket, courtesy of a benevolent Government which claims it can’t meddle with the Justice System, but then goes right ahead and does so. :mad:And how pissed off would you be back if they were found not guilty by the letter of law of murder.i think this finlayson explained thing quite well. | plod (107) | ||
| 1421665 | 2016-06-27 21:09:00 | Murder does mean intent to kill. Beating him up does not necessarily mean they wanted him dead. Anyway the problem is our sentences. Even murder is lame, compare sentences here with a lot of the US. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1421666 | 2016-06-27 22:17:00 | Murder does mean intent to kill. Beating him up does not necessarily mean they wanted him dead. Anyway the problem is our sentences. Even murder is lame, compare sentences here with a lot of the US.:+1: |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1421667 | 2016-06-28 03:30:00 | Murder does mean intent to kill. Beating him up does not necessarily mean they wanted him dead. Not the true definition of Murder at all. From the Governments own Website. 7290 So you see acting recklessly, knowing that death is likely, also qualifies you for a murder rap. I figure stomping on a child until his internal organs burst fits that category even if the IQ of the killers was less than their shoe size! The other thing that irks me is it should have been up to a Jury to downgrade the charge from Murder to Manslaughter if they saw fit, not the Government. Someone needs to remind them we are a democracy not a dictatorship! :mad: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1421668 | 2016-06-28 03:35:00 | Someone needs to remind them we are a democracy not a dictatorship! :mad: Yet!, certainly if left to your pal Key. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1421669 | 2016-06-28 21:03:00 | From the Governments own Website. So you see acting recklessly, knowing that death is likely, also qualifies you for a murder rap. Mmm....like they said, proving that one could have been tricky. These people are not the brightest, bashing a kid, yeah....at which point do they sit and think, oh, that action may be a bit much and kid may die, I'll downgrade my action to a bit softer bashing instead? They don't. I think we need to do 2 things: 1)Up the sentencing for stuff by loads 2)Stop putting kids in these sort of homes How the hell do they get passed as care givers anyway? Friend of mine did it for a few years, the rigmarole she had to go through, so how the hell do they pass? And not get checked up on? |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1421670 | 2016-06-28 22:10:00 | Ok, so what happens HERE (m.nzherald.co.nz) now we have a Precedent. Is everyone going to Plea Bargain Manslaughter to avoid a Murder rap. :rolleyes: (Tihi's defence counsel Phil Shamy today said that his client accepts he is guilty of manslaughter.) Might as well be the first Country to write Murder out of the Statutes. But I guess Mr Finlayson will attend to this once he has read his "Gay Pride" magazine. :groan: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1421671 | 2016-06-29 01:36:00 | Ok, so what happens HERE (m.nzherald.co.nz) now we have a Precedent. Is everyone going to Plea Bargain Manslaughter to avoid a Murder rap. :rolleyes: (Tihi's defence counsel Phil Shamy today said that his client accepts he is guilty of manslaughter.) Might as well be the first Country to write Murder out of the Statutes. But I guess Mr Finlayson will attend to this once he has read his "Gay Pride" magazine. :groan: I guess we could make murder an instant fine like traffic offenses. $500 / murder. |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1421672 | 2016-06-29 02:57:00 | I guess we could make murder an instant fine like traffic offenses. $500 / murder. Why not, there’s getting to be about the same number of both. :D If I get a speeding ticket I’m going to tell them I might get off on a technicality, but I will plead guilty to exceeding 10min parking. ;) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1421673 | 2016-06-29 03:13:00 | what does the fact Finlayson is gay have to do with anything? on manslaughter vs murder, yes it sucks but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. |
nmercer (3899) | ||
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