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Thread ID: 142347 2016-06-15 16:34:00 Brexit Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1421884 2016-06-16 13:05:00 ^ But if they made Lucas everything mandatory (Persondatory if they stay in) for either view????
Would the Lucasites for Home rule get your vote?
Would the E-LUCAS-U be heroes of the darkest hour?
;) 		R2x1 (4628)
1421885 2016-06-17 07:06:00 Hitler like didnt have enough ships for an invasion 10,000 miles away.

!st they defeat England, then on to NZ, which was the main reason Hitler started the war, he wanted NZ with all it's natural recourses. 		Cicero (40)
1421886 2016-06-17 07:31:00 !st they defeat England, then on to NZ, which was the main reason Hitler started the war, he wanted NZ with all it's natural recourses.

I thought he only wanted the North Island with all those Jaffa's.

England has been royally screwed over ever since it joined the rest of Europe.

As a kid I had to watch my friends parents friends tipping milk down the drain on their dairy farm because Europe said they must not over produce otherwise they would be fined, all the while other European countries got around the problem by paying their farmers not to over produce. That is just one of thousands of idiotic things foisted on the English by Europe.

French cops don't stop the illegals in France from trying to cross over like they are meant to as they consider if the escape its not their problem any more. 		gary67 (56)
1421887 2016-06-17 08:43:00 One of the first ridiculous rules I remember after Britain joined the EEC in 73 was Brussels forbidding the humble British sausage, because the meat content did not conform. So manufacturers had to produce a Euro sausage.

Then there were the sagas of butter mountains, beef mountains, wine lakes, all due to Euro subsidy payments to farmers, mainly out of British pockets, and mainly to the French


Edit: www.telegraph.co.uk 		Terry Porritt (14)
1421888 2016-06-17 09:31:00 Just watching The Hollow Crown - Richard II. This should appeal to Cicero:

This royal throne of kings, this scepter'd isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
This nurse, this teeming womb of royal kings,
Fear'd by their breed and famous by their birth,
Renowned for their deeds as far from home,
For Christian service and true chivalry,
As is the sepulchre in stubborn Jewry,
Of the world's ransom, blessed Mary's Son,
This land of such dear souls, this dear dear land,
Dear for her reputation through the world,
Is now leased out, I die pronouncing it,
Like to a tenement or pelting farm:
England, bound in with the triumphant sea
Whose rocky shore beats back the envious siege
Of watery Neptune, is now bound in with shame,
With inky blots and rotten parchment bonds:
That England, that was wont to conquer others,
Hath made a shameful conquest of itself. 		John H (8)
1421889 2016-06-17 12:26:00 Just watching The Hollow Crown - Richard II. This should appeal to Cicero:

This royal throne of kings, this scepter'd isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
This nurse, this teeming womb of royal kings,
Fear'd by their breed and famous by their birth,
Renowned for their deeds as far from home,
For Christian service and true chivalry,
As is the sepulchre in stubborn Jewry,
Of the world's ransom, blessed Mary's Son,
This land of such dear souls, this dear dear land,
Dear for her reputation through the world,
Is now leased out, I die pronouncing it,
Like to a tenement or pelting farm:
England, bound in with the triumphant sea
Whose rocky shore beats back the envious siege
Of watery Neptune, is now bound in with shame,
With inky blots and rotten parchment bonds:
That England, that was wont to conquer others,
Hath made a shameful conquest of itself.
I love it J,Branagh did it well recently, I am reminded of Prefect, when he speaks of a I know nor what? 		Cicero (40)
1421890 2016-06-17 23:14:00 I know of two organisations, the original idea behind each being sound, which have been totally stuffed up by bureaucratic over-government. One is the European Union, the other is the Auckland Super-City. I am not sure which is worse. Richard (739)
1421891 2016-06-17 23:22:00 A bit OT; re John H' post Richard II. I watched the entire series of The Hollow Crown, and I thought it brilliant, true to the characters Shakespeare penned. A pity Shakespeare wasn't true to actual history, being a spin doctor to the royals of his day, but that's a different story. Richard III is equally brilliant and Benedict Cumberbatch' portrayal of the last Plantagenet king superb. Not to be missed.

Sorry for the diversion, but now back to the Wars of The Bureaucrats ... 		WalOne (4202)
1421892 2016-06-18 03:36:00 The people of Great Britain have been betrayed by their Generals and the country invaded with hardly a shot being fired in anger.

Let it be a lesson and make sure it doesn’t happen here! ;) 		B.M. (505)
1421893 2016-06-18 06:51:00 Field Marshal Lord Guthrie:


‘From the point of view of the defence of the United Kingdom, a Leave vote is better. We wouldn’t be distracted. We could spend the money on the really important things.’

Here's a link to the Telegraph article

field-marshal-lord-guthrie-why-i-now-back-the-leave-campaign (www.telegraph.co.uk)

On defence:


It is so much better to make defence arrangements with countries, whether European or not, which are ready to act. Nations like Australia ‘which has a jolly good army and one which is prepared to do things’ and New Zealand, are much more useful to deal with than a European army.

Lord Guthrie believes that the EU’s ‘endgame’ is ‘to have an army which is really controlled by Brussels and they would eventually prefer no country to have a veto on what we do. Some might say that nationalism in Europe is a thing of the past and we’re all Europeans together; but actually it’s moving in the other direction, isn’t it? It’s very difficult for a nation to commit its forces if other nations are forcing that commitment. ’ 		WalOne (4202)
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